Xavier 🌻I want to look into #degoogleing my #email.
Does anyone have opinions on #protonmail vs #fastmail?
Ty!
ETA: thanks everyone for the boosts/replies. I've decided I'm going to go with Fast Mail! :)
jarek@xavier_hm Fastmail is standard email - you can use any email client, you can back-up, export and import easily. But that means that their servers can read your email at any time. Proton is encrypted by their email clients, which on one hand means their servers can't see email contents except when receiving them, but which also means you can't use any other clients (e.g. Apple Mail) and that search is less powerful. And anyway if you're sending email to or receiving it from Gmail or Outlook, it could be scanned on that side.
IMO there isn't a big practical difference in security and privacy as long as you're not a high-profile target. Proton is theoretically more difficult to get access to your data, but in practice the adversary could use an exploit on your phone/device or force-feed you a cracked client that neutralizes encryption or something.
Personally I am on Fastmail but I think either is fine and neither is perfect (or perfectly secure).
Brook Miles@xavier_hm what @jarek said. I use a paid Fastmail account for most purposes.
Alan@xavier_hm when I degoogled I tried Proton first, they looked pretty good but I ran into a few things I didn't like:
- search isn't great as the emails are encrypted in some way
- proton drive rarely worked for me
- the VPN was a pretty good bonus though
I've since moved to Fastmail for my email and mega.io for file hosting. Fastmail does the job nicely, and since I'm in Australia it's nice having an Aus-hosted service too.
Both are an improvement (for me at least) and Mega just started a VPN which is pretty good too.
Since moving I've seen Proton are jamming AI into things now so I'm glad I avoided that, I haven't heard fastmail doing AI stuff (yet at least)
@alansuspect yeah I'm leaning toward fastmail as of now.
Didn't consider mega for file storage. 2tb on the lowest paid tier is insane
@xavier_hm yeah Mega's allowance is crazy, definitely a step up from Google drive.
And for completion's sake, I now use #onlyoffice on desktop and mobile and sync files through Mega.
John Abbe (aka Slow)@xavier_hm Long-time Fastmail user, happy with it. Never done a deep dive comparing.
John Wilker 👨🏽💻@xavier_hm moved from google to Fastmail a few years ago. No complaints. Easy migration.
Scott Jann
@zenwheel @xavier_hm I did a sort of roll your own service. Was a cool little piece of hardware. Worked great then the company went belly up and the hardware was a paperweight.
sqrt(-1)@xavier_hm well, not on your initial options, but I'm using @runbox for years already and its great for me, maybe take a look on it too :)
Runbox@mdkcore @xavier_hm Thank you for the mention!
oracle bonz@xavier_hm Longtime user of Fastmail. It just works. #fastmail
Jou
Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️Haven't tried Fastmail, but before I moved to #SelfHosting my email, I used #ProtonMail and found it quite nice. Bear in mind you can't hook up a client like #ThunderBird easily and still have it be encrypted, but if you don't mind webmail (or a lot of tinkering) it's a good solution.
@Blort i love thunderbird so I'm gonna go with fast mail based on that and other stuff people have told me :)