It's always kinda funny hearing YT'ers talk about an old game nyo used to play when it came out, because like nyo're gonna hear about how TF2 actually was this huge competitive game with a huge skill ceiling (also crits are unbalanced), meanwhile most folks nya know just played stuff like these maps and probably on really modded servers.
In fact everywhere nya looked on Steam forums, people fucking hated the competitive people who were trying super hard to get this game balanced for something like 6v6