evacide

So much of my job is this over and over again on a loop:

"So what do you think we should do in order to responsibly build the Torment Nexus?"

"You can't. It's a Torment Nexus. Stop it."

"But the Torment Nexus is inevitable!"

"It's not. You could just not do it. You could stop right now."

Nov 24, 2024 at 9:56pmWeb
Show threadGregNov 24, 2024
@evacide Thankfully my current job is not like this but this is how I feel when I look through software job ads.
Show threadMozNov 25, 2024
@greg @evacide an IT recruiter actually said to me "if you're going to be ethical I can't help you".
Show threadkelNov 25, 2024

@moz @greg @evacide

Honest I suppose 🙄

This is why I can not 'just get a job' any more.

Those days are gone!

Show threadchristina bNov 26, 2024

@moz

omg the Overton Window has been boarded over

@greg @evacide

Show threadLewis EdwardsNov 26, 2024
@moz @greg @evacide That's pretty much every recruiter, everywhere, in my experience.
Show threadGregNov 26, 2024
@moz @evacide I have a non zero amount of sympathy. If you tried to dress ethically you’d walk around in that one brand of sneakers and one or two T-shirts and get arrested for public indecency.
Show threadMozNov 26, 2024
@greg @evacide you don't need pants for video calls!
Show threadDror BedrackNov 24, 2024
@evacide but if WE dont build the torment nexus THEY will build the torment nexus
Show threadJosephNov 24, 2024
@DrorBedrack @evacide It's giving "the prisoners dilemma" but with a capitalist twist where you're rewarded for being the worst person possible.
Show threadR. L. Dane  Nov 24, 2024

@DrorBedrack @evacide

Come join our symposium on building ethical open source Torment Nexuses!

Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)Nov 25, 2024
@RL_Dane @DrorBedrack @evacide Subscribe to my YouTube channel to watch a tutorial on how to self host your very own Torment Nexus!
Show threadmacOS Ken RayNov 24, 2024
@evacide “Yeah, but the idea’s out there. If we don’t, somebody else will…”
Show threadblackcoatNov 24, 2024
@evacide "Also, the torment Nexus doesn't even solve the problem we want to solve, or that our customers want solved."
"But if it does solve it in the future, how will we know how to use it?"
Show threadeviloatmeal, resident Death Stranding 2 apologist (arch, btw)Nov 25, 2024
@blackcoat @evacide "We just need to take a fail-fast approach to quickly bring a Torment Nexus prototype to market and gauge how our customers are using it."
Show threadMichal Migurski 🍉Nov 24, 2024
@evacide nobody wants to be last to build the torment nexus
Show threadTuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 Nov 24, 2024
@migurski @evacide
🥥 Nobody volunteers to fall into an orphan-crushing machine! 🥥
Show threadSin VegaNov 24, 2024
@evacide but if I don't fill my house with manure and set it on fire, someone else will first!
Show threaditgrrl Nov 24, 2024
@evacide ((((hugs)))) 🧸
Show threadCatSalad🐈🥗 (D.Burch) Nov 24, 2024
@evacide But the company that sells Torment Nexus on a Chip units (TNoCs) and Torment Processing Units (TPUs) is now worth $4 trillion...
Show thread💀 Fairchild 💀Nov 24, 2024
@catsalad @evacide But if we don't deploy Torment Nexus in all our SaaS, how will people summarize emails which were re-written by Torment Nexus?
Show threadAsta [AMP]Nov 24, 2024
@catsalad @evacide gonna call the impending economic collapse the “NVIDIA Torment Crisis”
Show threadBill SeitzNov 25, 2024
@catsalad @evacide TNaaS
Show threadAlienKnightNov 25, 2024
@billseitz oh no
Show threadvascorsdNov 24, 2024

@evacide I've worked in a bit of that some years ago. It's fun seeing how the nexus works on the background and how naive people in general think the world works and don't know how much has already been built and is out there consuming stuff.

Anyway, I nowadays am looking to work for something that could be considered boring or at least not building that kinda of thing. It's really impossible to avoid it 😞

Show threadFancy Pants 🧐🩲Nov 24, 2024

@evacide

"ONLY YOU - Can Prevent The Torment Nexus."

Show threadMichael GurskiNov 24, 2024
@evacide I'm waiting for the Nexus with Apple Torment. It will be the best Torment Nexus.
Show threadFinNov 25, 2024
@emag @evacide what? NO! The open sources Nexus called GNexUs, which is maintained by two people no one has ever heard of and just recruited this cool totally not suspicious fella into their main team will be the best and most trustable solution, you see, for open source blabla blebla bluhblibla blehblergh bla and that's why blrantblabla (...)
Show threadTim ChaseNov 25, 2024

@emag

Though Apple will create their own proprietary form of Torment and it will largely be incompatible with existing Torments. But on the bright side, their Torment will integrate exceptionally well with the full line of most recent Apple products.

😉

@evacide

Show threadJon [🇺🇦,🏳️‍🌈]Nov 24, 2024
@evacide "Windows Nex only runs on hardware with at least 40 TOPs (Torment Operations Per second)"
Show threadPicks the EvangelistNov 24, 2024
@evacide speaking of loops
Show threadJeffNov 24, 2024

@evacide I wish they'd connect the dots and outright say, "if I build the torment nexus, I can get rich by hurting people".

I'm sorry you have to put up with people trying to get you to ethicswash their bad idea so they can pretend the "by hurting people" clause isn't there.

Show threadEryn with a YNov 24, 2024

@evacide Mine is:

So we built the Torment Nexus. Can you make sure it meets accessibility requirements? We go live in two hours.

*Not really, but I'm cranky today.

Show threadBryan Redeagle Nov 24, 2024
@evacide But the shareholders are expecting a Torment Nexus. Our stock depends on it.
Show threadkawazoeNov 24, 2024
@evacide It's starting to feel like Roko's Basilisk more than the Torment Nexus.
Show threadMx. Luna CorbdenNov 24, 2024
@evacide @Mabande Turns out nobody needed to be threatened into building Roko's Basilisk.
Show threadFinNov 25, 2024

@corbden @evacide @Mabande well, many techbros DO unironically believe in this thing and that's why AI is ever so much pushed by them, despite all realism talks trying to educate them that it's just a slikely as time travel or string theory being proven emprically.

Which is silly, because did they never heard of the Great Basilisk of The South? The super extremely super advanced ultra AI that will put everyone who did not achieve the goal to build it, but especially so those who instead believed into the inferior Roko's Basilisk, into the Torment Nexus? smh my head my head

Show threadCharles HeroldNov 24, 2024
@evacide Our competitors are desperate to stop our Torment Nexus initiative so they can get there first. One of them even hired some guy to pretend to be from "the future" warning us that we were "dooming civilization." That shows you how important it is that we build it now.
Show threadNicole ParsonsNov 24, 2024

@evacide

Example: the IT staff of RealPage, Blackstone & Blackrock
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/realpage-fighting-charges-that-it-helps-landlords-fix-rent-prices-112024.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/23/doj-realpage-lawsuit

https://www.fastcompany.com/91015371/housing-market-blackstone-instutional-landlords

They helped billionaires & criminal organizations launder their cash through the residential housing market.

It ballooned mortgages, rents, commercial leases & homelessness globally and destabilized democracy.

Do they ever feel guilt for the massive degree of harm they inflict on society?

Now ask the same questions of cryptocurrency & AI techs...

RealPage fighting charges that it helps landlords fix rent prices

The federal government is suing RealPage, a rental software firm, over alleged price-fixing that inflates rents for tenants. The lawsuit accuses RealPage o

ConsumerAffairs
Show threadD2Nov 25, 2024
@Npars01 @evacide hey, not mentioned in the article, but KKR’s tech staff, and anyone contracted by the house of Saud belong on the list.
Show threadNicole ParsonsNov 25, 2024

@InkomTech @evacide

Saudi Arabia & Qatar

The tech staff at Oracle...
https://www.oracle.com/middleeast/news/announcement/oracle-will-train-saudi-nationals-in-artificial-intelligence-and-other-latest-digital-technologies-2023-12-14/

https://www.404media.co/larry-ellisons-ai-powered-surveillance-dystopia-is-already-here/

The tech staff at Google
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/07/heres-a-look-at-who.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/24/mohammed-bin-salman-mbs-saudi-arabia-yemen-war-crimes/

The tech staff at KKR (Kohlberg, Kravis, & Roberts)
https://www.businessinsider.com/kkr-talks-acquire-integral-ad-science-2024-11

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-01/data-center-boom-seen-fueling-250-billion-of-annual-spending

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-21/kkr-bain-brawl-worth-4-billion-shows-japan-private-equity-boom

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg_Kravis_Roberts

Show threadVulpine Labs Inc.Nov 24, 2024
@evacide but.. but.. profit?!?! /sarcasm
Show threadzeruchNov 24, 2024
@evacide until folks start building things folks want without letting the enshittification contingent slurp it up, we'll be in this loop...or until the planet topples, whichever comes with a better dividend.
Show threadBruce HeerssenNov 25, 2024
@zeruch @evacide
It appears that destroying the planet has amazing short and medium term ROI potential.
Show threadStarravenNov 25, 2024
@evacide
Always advise them to build the Torment Nexus in such a way that they and those closest to them will endure the most torment.
Show threadRaglan Niall  Nov 25, 2024
@evacide your own personal torment nexus!
Show threadFilene TaylorNov 25, 2024
@evacide I am so close to asking for your Torment Nexus advice, F***
Show threadGabriel NNov 25, 2024

@evacide

— just picture it:

“TORMENT NEXUS, now with AI”

Show threadRobin BobcatNov 25, 2024

@evacide
"Look, we're already halfway done..."

"What? How?!"

"Well, okay, it's still in planning, but we've got all the approvals and environmental impact studies, and that's the part that takes forever."

Show threadDanil SuitsNov 25, 2024

@evacide

"Mr. President, we must not allow a Torment Nexus gap!"

Show threadsomtwoNov 25, 2024
@evacide "Clearly your concern comes down to framing. How can we rebrand the Torment Nexus to make you feel better about it?"
Show threadPseudo NymNov 25, 2024

@evacide

At least they'd like to do it responsibly?

Show threadPseudo NymNov 25, 2024

@evacide

"No problem bro, I got you covered. One responsible Torment Nexus coming up.

First, attach one end of this clip to your testicles (it is only ever a testicle-having person that asks for this, so we are ok here), and the other end to this battery. Now we just wire the Torment Nexus prototype into the switch for the circuit.

Every time someone uses the Nexus, you get shocked, see, you are responsible!"

"No, not like that."

Show threadTim ChaseNov 25, 2024

@pseudonym

…remarkably reasonable. 🤔

@evacide

Show threadEndlessMasonNov 25, 2024
@evacide
We got a whole bunch of previous gen nexus parts on black Friday sale... Umm... So you know of any other types of nexus we could use them for?
Show threadMaarten PelgrimNov 25, 2024
@evacide Ah, the inevitability argument. It shows up ever time someone pitches a really stupid idea
Show threadrichardwildNov 25, 2024
@evacide The end boss of this logic is always "but if we don't build the Torment Nexus, someone else will!"
Show threadLars Marowsky-Brée 😷Nov 25, 2024

@evacide "The only winning move is not to play."

(The next tattoo if I ever decide on the look.)

Show threadTimothy WolodzkoNov 25, 2024
@evacide it’s a convenient way to think about it, because than you have no responsibility over it
Show threadPossumanthaNov 25, 2024
@evacide We start each torment nexus with fresh free-range recycled electrons.
Show threadJon_AlperNov 25, 2024
@evacide You are not alone. You have my empathy, sympathy, and thanks.