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Jesse SkinnerBoost this toot if you're planning on sticking around Mastodon & the Fediverse whether or not it's more popular than Bluesky.
Shinydan@JesseSkinner they serve different functions for me. besides, if the people saying it's going to turn into X 2.0 aren't wearing tinfoil hats, it'll be nice to have somewhere to rely on.
jaxroamUltimately I don't want my content and interactions to be on Bluesky or Mastodon, I want it to be my content and interactions.
Both places, particularly Mastodon, are getting there, but aren't there yet.
Dave Rainsford
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@JesseSkinner I'll be with the nerdy kids in the library, thanks. 
Toni Aittoniemi@JesseSkinner Bridging to bluesky should be enough. I still enjoy a non-algorithm view more than chasing a computer algorithm to boost things for me!
–modo ⚛️ 🧬 🇪🇺 🇨🇦 🇺🇦@gimulnautti
And eventually they will introduce advertising and everyone there will scream "the sky is falling in!"
@JesseSkinner
And eventually they will introduce advertising and everyone there will scream "the sky is falling in!"
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Erik Jonker@JesseSkinner ..I think they can co-exist, at least for me
Brian@JesseSkinner Federated future!
AJ@JesseSkinner Open source future for all, no VC funding! ✊
Dreaming of dad jazz.@JesseSkinner I'll be on both..
@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote@michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner I think keeping Mastodon as a main account and also building a community on BS that could be ported here if the enshitification of BS hits, might not be an awful idea. it might also be a way to educate people about the fediverse. #Mastodon #BlueSky
JonChevreau@Pineywoozle @michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner Good strategy. I see Mastodon as Quality, BS will like X be about Quantity. Mastodon is my first port of call.
David 
@Pineywoozle @michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner And don't forget to educate people on both platforms about Bridgy Fed.
@David Sorry, I need to read about that before I comment and your post go buried under cat replies. I’ll look it up today. @michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner
Strypey@Pineywoozle
> keeping Mastodon as a main account and also building a community on BS that could be ported here if the enshitification of BS hits
*When* the enshittification of BS hits;
https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/?ref=ActivityPub
shield_asset@strypey @Pineywoozle @michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner Does the fact that BlueSky only operates with around 20 employees not alarm anyone?
@shield_asset Everything about it bothers me. It feels like another way to get us to gather in groups and then implode us when we need cohesion for the next election. @strypey @michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner
@shield_asset @strypey @Pineywoozle @JesseSkinner
No. I don't see why the size of the company would bother me. They seem to be doing very well with the people they have. The technical ability of their team is very good without a doubt.
I do think that their implementation of federation is largely incomplete dispite what the boosters say. Noone else runs relay nodes but them and they're not cheap to run.
@shield_asset @strypey @Pineywoozle @JesseSkinner
Mostly though they are part of the VC system and eventually the VCs will want their money.
@shield_asset @strypey @Pineywoozle @JesseSkinner
I do think that they're beating everyone's ass on moderation and safety as well as with on-boarding. I hope we can implement their best ideas here.
@michaelcoyote @strypey @Pineywoozle @JesseSkinner That there's been such a smooth onboarding for hordes of Twitter refugees has been testament to good scalable moderation. Very true.
The cynic in me says "We'll see how long that lasts."
@shield_asset @strypey @Pineywoozle @JesseSkinner
The good on-boarding will probably last a long time. Other things will fall away.
marymessall@michaelcoyote @JesseSkinner I'll be on here with a bridged account, following people on there with bridged accounts...
Yeah, I'm probably not going to do any of that. my bluski account can stay over there and my fedi account can stay here.
Peejmaybe@JesseSkinner I'm counting on it staying like it is. It's the perfect social media platform for antisocial people :)
Peter J Fullagar 🌈@peejmaybe oh goodness - is that why I like it so much? I do feel quite antisocial most of the time.
@peterjfullagar Yup. Same. I used to be a people person but people kinda ruined that for me :D
@peejmaybe oh christ, completely. Bloody people. Especially crowds of people. They're the worst.
The WookieWho cares which is more popular. I care which is more effective and less toxic. I'm sticking around.
dj.siSame here. I really don't care how popular something is - if IMO something is toxic and/or garbage, I simply will not use it. So I'm staying here, and staying off bsky (just as I've been staying off WhatsApp and Telegram).
Agreed. I left Twitter years ago, have purged my FB account of all friend connections so I can use it for the limited function of a few closed groups and want nothing to do with TikTok, SnapChat, Bluesky, Telegram, WhatsApp, or anything else. Maybe I am less connected but the connections I have are real and impact my life in a positive way. I have no interest in feeding the wolf that just wants me to be angry, mean, or selfish all the time. I have no time for clickbait and no interest in feeding any billionaire's AI bot.
Likewise, I barely use FB these days and have no desire at all to use any of the other platforms you named. I'm selective about who I connect with, both online and IRL - I want to be in contact with people who enhance my life, not negative/toxic individuals who will only drain my energy.
The lament in all this is well meaning people who were still willing to have a polite normal conversation and engage in fact driving political discourse have been driven from the "virtual public square" to protect our own wellbeing. What's left is a mob willing feed on each other, share misinformation, and rip away at society. Sane voices on those other platforms were drowned out, now they are just gone. The inmates run the asylum.
Kadsepfösch@JesseSkinner I'll not boost because that has FB-share-meme energy. 😬
I'll stay in the Fediverse. But I also have my account bridged th BS and interact with my friends there.
@Glatorius agreed! But I just wanted to spread some shared love for this platform at a time when the other is getting a lot of hype and attention.
BronMason👋🏽👋🏽 I’m staying on Mastodon! I have everything I want from my social media here. No reason to leave.
Clio Dunn@JesseSkinner I'm staying. I like both. Bluesky is an easy transition for friends. I still has flamers, but definitely an improvement over X.
Ozzy@JesseSkinner I plan on sticking around Fediverse 
Sensible Crone@JesseSkinner Me, I am only here. Gave up owned social media two years ago. Very happy here.
JdeBPMy social media is owned, but in the way that I prefer it, by a bunch of disconnected comparatively ordinary people in, variously, England, Scotland, Wales, Germany, and Florida.
I remember when once it was a bloke in Luton.
Emily@JesseSkinner getting different things from the two platforms!
JHKoivula@JesseSkinner @magdalenahai “Boo, engagement bait.”
Sike! No such thing here! No algorithm to feed, just people sharing ideas, whoo!
@JHKoivula yep! I'm just spreading the love, not looking for follows or anything. This isn't about me, it's about our love for the fediverse!
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Soozcat@JesseSkinner Neither a thing's popularity nor its obscurity has stopped me from enjoying it. I got over that phase in my teens.
Geert Aarts@JesseSkinner Mastodon is great, but to make it even better for professional use it might help if something like the "top-links" in the "catch-up" (Beta) window of #phanpy (https://phanpy.social/ ) is the home page by default for all users. These top-links are sorted by the number of times boosted by the ones *you follow*. This could be useful for #science, to highlight most important developments (e.g. publications) in your network. Now you easily miss them, causing some colleagues to leave.
MacCruiskeen@geertaarts @JesseSkinner Why should it be good for professional use? Not being good for professional use makes it more good for actually *social* use.
@maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner OK, also social. Let's say you follow 200 others, and you stick to them, because you like their messages. Let's say 100 of them post/boost 5 messages per day. That is 500 messages in your timeline/day. A more silent friend or colleague posts one message per month, which might be quite important for both the sender and receiver. It is quickly snowed under.
Many of my colleagues joined about a year ago, but most left to LinkedIn and Bluesky now. I think because of this
Many of my colleagues joined about a year ago, but most left to LinkedIn and Bluesky now. I think because of this
@geertaarts @maccruiskeen you can turn on notifications on a per-account basis - so those friends whose posts you don't want to miss, click their profile and click the bell icon and their posts will show up in your notifications.
Marc W. 
@geertaarts @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner
So what’s you solution? Some kind of algorithm that sorts through posts and decides for you what you should see?
@marc_w @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner The algorithm is specified above: Those posts with the highest recent number of boosts from your network appear at the top.
@geertaarts @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner
Bot farms promoting posts with a particular slant are already a thing.
@marc_w @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner Marc, sorry, I'm not sure I understand. To be clear, I love Mastodon, it is a great place, and would like to stay here. However, the reality is that a lot of colleagues (mostly researchers) joined Mastodon, but have now left. I think it is fair to ask why that's case. What makes Bluesky attractive to them? It might help if we all have a simple and transparrent algorithm in place that ensures you see the stuff you are keen to see.
tbones@geertaarts @marc_w @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner I love hashtag subscription here. Sadly, commercial monolithic systems do full text search so people become too lazy to use hashtags here. This makes it harder to discover new accounts of interest.
Andrea@geertaarts @marc_w @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner did you know blue sky and fediverse (mastodon) can be federated? Check out @bsky.brid.gy for the integration, you can follow bsky accounts and they can follow you back
el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦@marc_w @geertaarts @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner
De-follow bot farms, and this algorithm won't influence your experience.
@elCelio @geertaarts @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner
That's been tried on other platforms, but the bots always win.
@geertaarts @maccruiskeen @JesseSkinner
I support
In #Mastodon there's a phobia about algorithms, because of how they're used in other platforms: to collect data to promote ads and also to modify the experience of others
But a simple algorithm that counts how many times posts were boosted by the people you follow and puts them in a "most popular" feed, it doesn't influence others and uses only data that you already have in your home feed
It just save time to find the more interesting posts