The Democratic party should use this inflection point to shift ground – from being the party of well-off college graduates, big corporations, “never-Tumpers” like Dick Cheney and vacuous “centrism” – to an anti-establishment party ready to shake up the system on behalf of the vast majority of Americans.

This is and should be the Lesson of the 2024 election.

@rbreich I'm curious how many previous elections would you say should have taught the Dems the exact same message? I figure they've ignored the lesson at least 2 or 3 times
@rbreich I can just look at the donation solicitations in my inbox to see no one learned anything.

@rbreich

It seems to me like the system is so broken that no party can compete solely with the support of well meaning grass roots constituents. Corruption is required to win.

@rbreich Two things:
1. There is a need, but it won't come from the Dems. If it happened at all, that would be a new party.
2. In the absence of a free press, 1. will never be allowed to happen.

@rbreich

anti-corporations, but of course we can't anger our owners.

@rbreich Yeah; because trying to use the standard strategies of passing laws ends in stalemate every time. Then the GOP plays off Dems being unable to accomplish what they promised

@mindstorm8191 @rbreich

> because trying to use the standard strategies of passing laws ends in stalemate every time. Then the GOP plays off Dems being unable to accomplish what they promised

That's only part of the problem. The Democrats have swung conservative.

Obama ran in 2008 on "No more too big to fail" and "We're going to go after the people who caused the financial crisis."
As President, he could have directed the Department of Justice to do both. He did neither.

Likewise, the Democratic Party has been all-in on supporting the military industrial complex. Democratic votes in Congress against our $800 billion annual military budgets are scarce.

@firebreathingduck @rbreich I disagree that Democrats have recently turned conservative. They have been that way for a very long time now. They do it to try & win more right-wing voters.

No argument about the rest of your post, though

@rbreich They should have picked up on this in 2016, if not sooner. Frankly I’m disgusted with the democrats as much as the GOP- at least the leopards eating faces party let us know what they had in mind
@rbreich Should have been the lesson on 2016

@rbreich
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@rbreich The Democratic party won't change much until the octogenarians step aside and let a far younger generation take over.

By the way, it was your buddy Bill Clinton who shifted the party rightward after the so-called "Republican Revolution" of 1994. He made policy decisions for which Ronald Reagan would have been excoriated. And who suffered for it? Not Clinton's millionaire pals, that's for sure.

Of course, the left was silent about it because Clinton had a "D" after his name.

@rbreich Lotta "shoulds" there. I wish the same thing. I don't think it will happen unless there is a massive liberal movement to unseat Democrat leaders and replace them with real activists supporting these issues.

@rbreich

The incompetence, arrogance, fecklessness, and out-of-touchness on display by the Democrats over the past 4 years is incomprehensible

The two parties might not be the same but it's become clear that unless the Democrats make some radical changes, the final outcome (i.e. an inexorable slide into far-right authoritarian dystopia) will be the same regardless of who's in charge

So I'm done with the Democrats for the time being. I'm not gonna waste my time or money on a lost cause

@rbreich

It SHOULD be the lesson... shouldn't it???

What faith do you have that Democratic leadership will learn that lesson???

I have none.

@rbreich
Every single idiot trump voter I know, and I live in rural Iowa so that includes about everyone but my family, voted against the "woke" democrats. Their hate of LGBTQ drove the vote. Everything else is a lie from them!
@rbreich this should have been the lesson of the 2016 election.

@joshuaiz @rbreich

It should have been the lesson in 2010, too. In 2008 Obama ran on "No more too big to fail" and "We're going to get the people behind the financial crisis". Then, as President in charge of the Department of Justice, he did nothing. I think that's why the Republicans swept the mid-term elections.

Don't get me wrong, the Affordable Care Act is fantastic. But I think voters had figured out that Obama gave nice progressive speeches but wasn't serious about challenging any other part of the status quo.

@rbreich
Oh do please shut up you enemy of minority working voters.
@rbreich
Here you are, with your college PhD and decades of badmouthing the Democratic Party, which as you know is mostly run by Black women, spreading your baloney about who is really running the party. You should be ashamed, but you aren't.
@rbreich we planning to ride out late stage capitalism with this attitude or are we planning to use our collective strength and wealth to lift each other up - absent things like means testing which divide and sometimes shame? Vision needs to be grander and finance/privatization fetishists need not apply, imo
@rbreich Or maybe realize we re all blindsides by Cambridge Analytica Ver. 2, this time supported by generative AI, considerably longer prep time, Elon's twitter user profile data & deployed at national scale. Maybe the election really WAS stolen. I've got some proof, but i'm gathering more. Check my pinned tweet.
@rbreich It's a lesson the DNC had the opportunity to learn in 2016, yet here we are again!

@rbreich I will contue to vote D up and down the ticket because there really isn’t any other choice. But winning an election requires so much goddamn money no one normal can win. You just about have to be willing to take money from anyone who offers it… including billionaires and big corporations, who then own you.

*except Jeff Merkley.

@rbreich The US is going to be rebuilding for decades after 4 years of Trump's wrecking ball.

@rbreich

Nope.

The lesson of the 2024 election is the same lesson as the 2016 election, i.e.:

The majority of American men (and a horrifying number of American women) absolutely fuскing HATE women (especially Black women), and will vote for the stupidest, most corrupt, incompetent POS male—even a rapist with Alzheimers—before ANY woman.

@rbreich
I'm curious why things between parties are so close to even across the country. 50/50 Senate, 50/50 House, nearly a 50/50 percentage split for President.

Why is that? It hasn't always been so.

@rbreich Do the vast majority of Americans want the system shaken up? How would you know that? If so, what does that mean? How do they want it shaken up?
@rbreich "is and should be" but it's not going to be.
@rbreich What people are really wanting is a fighter and real progressive like Teddy or FDR those who are not afraid to challenge the Greedarchy instead of bending a knee.
@rbreich You guys really need to move on from this two-party bullshit. It's not the Democratic party that needs to change. Alternatives, and actual competition, need to start actually existing.
@rbreich according to what I've seen on CNN, they aren't going to do that, will treat good ideas with contempt, and then half ass them anyways.
@rbreich we don't need to break the system, that's what trump does. What we need to do is have an adult conversation with people are face some hard truths. Yes, inflation was caused by policies, but policies going years back. Yes, things hurt, but quick fixes always have a snap back event. We need to stop fixing the system for Republicans just to break it again, and then blame Dems for it being broken when we're in office.

@rbreich

I'm a centrist yet even I agree with this completely.

One doesn't win elections without the support of the masses. But the masses are nowhere near the Center...and haven't been ever since the onset of COVID-19 accelerated the movement of the masses into partisan internet echo chambers.

@rbreich I especially like the part where I don't have to associate with Dick Cheney.

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