Christina Warren
Once again: we’re allowed to be fucking heartbroken and angry. I’m not saying that we can be mad forever. I’m saying we’re allowed to be angry and sad today. All this “now it’s time to work” bullshit is just that. Bullshit. People are allowed to feel what they feel. And be fucking honest: the work wasn’t enough this time. At all. At all.
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Show threadDave Winer ☕️Nov 6, 2024

@film_girl

I just wrote about this.

http://scripting.com/2024/11/06.html

See the last entry, but the whole page is for you. We have work to do.

Scripting News: Wednesday, November 6, 2024

Dave Winer, OG blogger, podcaster, developed first apps in many categories. Old enough to know better. It's even worse than it appears.

Scripting News
Show threadJeremy BuntingNov 6, 2024
@film_girl Truly underestimated the level of hatred and inability to empathize, it’s such bullshit
Show thread((Jann Gobble)) 🏳️‍🌈Nov 6, 2024

@film_girl I'm an Uber driver at Disney World. Today (not kidding) 5 of 7 rides going back to airport were PA folks. 4 Philly, and 3 the "T" (ie: red area) of PA. OF those, Only 2 people in one of my rides voted - AT ALL! They said they were too sick of all the constant ads in PA! 2 people of 16 found it in their hearts to early-vote before escaping to WDW! Oh, and they told me all this without me asking a thing! Each of the 5 rides just brought up the election.

This hurts. It really does!

Show threadSungjin 성진Nov 6, 2024
@film_girl seems to be the strategy that's the issue and not the work. That's the maddening thing.
Show threadHasenNov 6, 2024
@noksucow @film_girl just having a ship and crew doesn’t mean you know where you are going.
Show threadChristina WarrenNov 6, 2024
@noksucow I think it can be all those things. We need top to bottom reassessment. Which is basically what happened post 2004.
Show threadNumeric CitizenNov 6, 2024
@film_girl yep. I’m angry too. blips.numericcitizen.me/post/now-...
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Show threadLenora256Nov 6, 2024
@film_girl Just as the children yearn for the mines, the conservatives yearn for fascism. I don’t know what the work people think we’re going to do.
Show threadRobert LinkNov 6, 2024

@film_girl Goes both ways. If my coping mechanism is to offer warmth and reassurance and try to close ranks and build together, that's surely my right as much as it's your right to wail and gnash your teeth.

The work is never enough, it was not enough before we got here and it will not be enough when we are gone, but we do it anyway. Sometimes we do it undismayed, sometimes we do it with our eyes streaming tears. But we don't quit.

Show threadChristina WarrenNov 6, 2024
@phaedral maybe we need to be better and smarter about how we work tho. Because this hasn’t worked. I’m not saying we need to do the autopsy now. I can’t event contemplate it at this point. But we have to reassess our tactics and our leaders if we ever want the work to produce positive results. And that starts by acknowledging that we lost. We lost. And there is no sugar-coating that. Our work was not good enough. Our work was rejected.
Show threadMaxicus OveritusNov 6, 2024

@film_girl @phaedral
Our work was not sufficiently helpful for the voters we knew needed to vote, and wasn't even relevant to the folks watching corporate media.

And the Dems didn't reach the pain that corporate America and it's subsidies continues to inflict.

Show threadRobert LinkNov 6, 2024
@aka_quant_noir "corporate media" is a big part of this. In the end I see the triumph of reality tv as the truly biggest factor. That's an oversimplification, but it's the broad stroke of my thought.
Show threadRobert LinkNov 6, 2024

@film_girl Totally need to be better and smarter! No question! And I totally get the need to rage. My rage is only thinly veiled and barely held in. We lost, big, stupid-big. I am very much on the same page with you.

I've been asking myself, how does someone like me connect with someone in one of those sparsely populated red states that gave Trump so much of the electoral college? How does someone like me counter the targeted efforts to pit such folks against folks like me?

Show threadFreediverXNov 6, 2024
@film_girl
I noped out of a Teams meeting when a supervisor started their motivational speech by saying, “Whether your horse in the race won or did not win yesterday…”
Show threadNot SurprisedNov 6, 2024
@film_girl You can be angry over the election and you will get over that. The thing is the next 4 years will bring a constant stream of issues to be angry about. It won't really go away.
Show threadÖlbaumNov 6, 2024
@film_girl Some are still working: the dozen of three-year-olds in charge of counting votes in Utah are still not finished.
Show threadDSG2112Nov 6, 2024
@film_girl Would more work have won the race? I assume you mean canvassing, phone banking, etc., but correct me if I am wrong. Those things can make the difference in a very close election, but the biggest factors are the candidate's appeal to voters, the effectiveness of the campaign's strategy, and the underlying fundamentals of the race (the economy, mood of the voters, popularity of the incumbent, etc.). It's possible that no amount of work could have overcome those factors in this election.
Show threadChristina WarrenNov 7, 2024
@DSG2112 no, that’s not the work I was talking about. I mean the right tactics. The right messaging. The right candidate (at the right time). The ground game stuff matters and it can make the difference some years but this wasn’t a ground game failure. The work failure here is much broader.
Show threadmacfixerNov 7, 2024

@film_girl I am lucky to have an office door that I can close and occasionally just be a slug.

Acknowledge your feelings.

Also, fuck that guy.