Forget your MAGA-pilled relatives, they're gone. There’s two completely different kinds of people you probably know one of who are persuadable:

Normie pro-business upper-middle-class men who think Trump will be better for their personal finances, and leftists convinced some light fascism will move America towards socialism.

Both are underestimating just how bad Trump would be for their interests. Call them and talk them off the ledge.

The center-right men worry that Harris will raise their taxes, or heard from racists like Sacks that she's “stupid”. They hate Trump, but they think he'll be better for them financially.

Trump has said he wants to overrule the Fed on interest rates, risking the economy. Trump's tariff idiocy will bring back inflation, and unlike taxes a moderate congress can't stop tariffs. Tax-free social security will balloon the deficit. Deportations of workers harm the economy. These are WSJ-endorsed views.

The news about how General Milley and Matthis–old white dudes they'll respect–genuinely think he's a fascist and a threat to America maybe hasn't broken through to them. They think another Trump term will be OK like the last one because people will keep him in check, so it'll be fine. It's different now. There'll be no Gary Cohns or John Kellys. Full on fascism is bad for business.

Remind them split ticket voting is a thing. They can vote D for President, and R all the way down after that.

As for the left wing person in your life who is angry that Biden/Harris haven't done more (Roe was overturned on their watch!), the idea that a quick dose of the bad stuff will bring America home to the DSA is so off it's hard to counter. The best approach is probably to try and scare them to their senses.

Luckily the Trump campaign is provide lots of material for this. Right now at a rally for Trump in NY there are some blood and soil speeches bringing the house down.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850639517281034317

Rudy Giuliani to rapturous applause just told the audience:

“The Palestinians are taught to kill us at two years old. […] They may have good people. I’m sorry, I don’t take a risk with people that are taught to kill Americans at two.”

Yes, the current administration has been awful on Gaza. But there's no doubt a Trump presidency would be far far worse. Trump has publicly said many times he thinks Bibi should go further, that he has been held back.

You have to be really full-on can't look the other way racist for the NYT to break glass and call a political rally racist in a headline, instead of giving it the usual thesaurus and euphamism treatment.

Nobody can claim to be on the fence after this. No “I'm a double hater” excuses. You either accept this, or take a stand against it.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/10/27/us/harris-trump-election?ogrp=ctr&unlocked_article_code=1.VU4.0620.OmwtPKcMm4Lu&smid=url-share

They’ve realized they fucked up and are trying to walk it back. The line will be that it was a single speaker who doesn’t represent the campaign.

But just shortly after, Tucker Carlson described Harris as a “Samoan, Malaysian, low IQ former California prosecutor”.

Their only mistake was misjudging how far that could take it before the inert press finally had to face reality.