#FoxNews cleans up another #Trump mess

After the #debate, the network worked to keep the #MAGA faithful in a state of blissful #ignorance.

The reviews were almost universally savage after Trump’s debate debacle, in which he ranted about #immigrants eating pets while getting his clock cleaned by an opponent he had insisted was “stupid.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/13/fox-news-debate-coverage-trump-harris/

Fox News cleans up another Trump mess

After the debate, the network worked to keep the MAGA faithful in a state of blissful ignorance.

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Even the WSJ’s #RightWing editorialists thought that VP #KamalaHarris “won the debate because she came in w/a strategy to taunt & goad #Trump into diving down rabbit holes of personal #grievance & #vanity,” while #KarlRove added in a column that the night “was a #TrainWreck for him, far worse than anything Team Trump could have imagined.”

And then, in a universe all its own, was #FoxNews.

#Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

“All the memorable lines were from Donald Trump,” host #JesseWatters proclaimed after the #debate ended. (He specifically cited #Trump’s “eating the pets” line.) “He just had some great knockouts,” Watters added. “And so this race just got tighter.”

“That’s probably true,” anchor #BretBaier agreed.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

An ebullient #KamalaHarris campaign immediately called for another #debate. (#Trump, who once called for debates “ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANYPLACE,” eventually refused the challenge after much hemming & hawing.) But #Harris’s gesture of confidence prompted #FoxNews’s #LauraIngraham to argue: “They don’t think she won. They don’t think she’s in a position to win this race.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #MAGA #ignorance

#SeanHannity interviewed Sen #MarcoRubio (R-FL), who claimed #Trump notched “a big win.”

Sen #LindseyGraham (R-SC) [who initially said it was a “disaster for Trump] said #Trump had “the best closing in presidential #debate history.”

Trump himself joined #Hannity in the spin room. “I think it was my best debate ever,” he said.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #MAGA #ignorance

And that was just within the first 75 mins after the #debate. The next morning, #Trump was back, on “Fox & Friends.” “I won the debate by a lot,” he said, & “every single poll last night had me winning like 90-10.” The hosts did not contradict him. At the same time, Trump argued that #ABC News should lose its broadcasting license, because “they had a rigged show with somebody that maybe even had the answers.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT #RepublicanTV

On Wednesday afternoon, #JesseWatters returned to the airwaves. “I found [Harris] evasive, found her unlikable, preachy &, instinctually, I don’t know that’s going to play with men,” he said. “The signature moments that you see on the internet after this, she didn’t have any. … #Trump had them all.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

On Thursday afternoon, conservative radio host #HughHewitt, a Post Opinions contributor, announced on #FoxNews that #Trump “is in the process of winning the #debate” because “a debate isn’t over in a day” & “upon further review, the American public has decided that debate was rigged.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

It was a case study in how the dominant “news” organ of the right cleans up #Trump’s messes. When President Joe #Biden had his disastrous debate, liberal outlets & commentators panned the performance & ultimately helped to force him out of the race. But when Trump had what was, objectively, a bad night, #FoxNews led a movement to claim it didn’t happen.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

67M viewers saw an out-of-control #Trump claim he won the #2020election, complain that those who attacked the Capitol on #Jan6, 2021, were “treated so badly,” argue about his #CrowdSize, assert that he had read that #Harris “was not Black” & that #Biden “hates her,” admit that he still only has “#ConceptsOfAPlan” on #healthcare, make odd statements such as “I got involved with the #Taliban” & “she wants to do #transgender operations on illegal *aliens* that are in prison,”

#propaganda #FoxNews

& utter this ludicrous #slander about #Haitian #immigrants: “They’re eating the dogs, the people that came in. They’re eating the cats. They’re eating — they’re eating the pets of the people that live there.”
#FoxNews then told its viewers (14M people watched the simulcast on the network) that they had not seen what they just saw. Unless I missed it, viewers also weren’t told the other news of the night, that #TaylorSwift had endorsed #Harris after the #debate.

#Trump #propaganda #FoxNews #lies

Often…readers ask why #Trump’s followers don’t see that he is off his rocker. This is why. #FoxNews sane-washes him — & it sets the tone for the entire #MAGA social media ecosystem.

The main disagreement on the network seemed to be between those who believed the #debate had been a triumph for Trump & those who believed the two #ABC News #moderators denied the #GOP nominee his rightful triumph.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #ignorance

“Tonight’s debate was three on one,” proposed #Hannity.

“Yes, it was a three-on-one debate,” chorused Florida Gov Ron #DeSantis.

“Three against one,” said Sen #LindseyGraham (SC).

“It was three on one,” said #LaraTrump.

“We had three against one,” said #Trump himself.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

During a commercial break came…an ad from #RightWing billionaire Richard #Uihlein’s super-#PAC blaming #Harris for “murders, rapes, attacks on children” & for being “a complete failure.” It was difficult to distinguish the news coverage from the attack ad.

If #FoxNews viewers were listening carefully, they could have heard snippets of reality. #BritHume acknowledged that “#Trump had a bad night”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #debate #MAGA

& [Hume cont] that #Harris was “a different person from the absolute dunderhead so many of us thought she was during her conduct as vice president.” And a token Democrat, fmr congressman Harold Ford, politely disagreed w/the general tenor of things: “I just think she won.”

But after 15 mins of this post-#debate “analysis,” #Hannity took over the anchor chair & ended all dissent.

#Trump #idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews

#Hannity said #Harris had presented nothing but “pre-rehearsed, memorized platitudes” & “lots of kind of weird faces & expressions.” He then went after the “left-wing moderators. The biggest loser of the night, #ABC, #Disney, Bob Iger’s network. It was a disgrace.” Hannity was upset that the moderators had not brought up the VP’s position on “banning plastic straws,” among other things.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #debate #MAGA #ignorance

“It’s an embarrassment to journalism,” said #MarcoRubio.

[that’s the embarrassment to #journalism???]

“The #ABC #moderators were complicit in her running a completely fact free debate performance,” submitted Sen #TedCruz (TX).

#Trump running mate #JDVance, also joining #Hannity, agreed that the moderators “did a terrible job” while “President Trump did a good job.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

#Hannity was upset that #Harris “wasn’ fact-checked.” (Maybe this was because Harris hadn’t claimed #immigrants were eating people’s pets.)

Hannity decided to “dip in” to post-debate remarks by Harris to supporters but cut that off after 31 secs, just as she was about to give her assessment of the #debate. Then he tried to broadcast an unannounced appearance by #Trump in the spin room.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #debate #MAGA #ignorance

But this didn’t go well, either, because, while it was difficult to hear #Trump, reporters’ questions were loud & clear:

“Why didn’t you look at her?”

“Did she get under your skin?”

“Why not let the performance speak for itself?”

#Why not have a second debate?”

Trump made his way over to #Hannity for some gentler treatment. Trump informed his interviewer that he had “won the #debate” & “we’re getting great reviews.”

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews

As evidence, #Trump cited viewer surveys from #FarRight sites. “We looked at one poll, it was 92 to 7,” he said. “We looked at another, 86 to 3.”

“Wow,” #Hannity replied.

At one point, Trump started to veer into repeating his claims that #immigrants are eating pets — & Hannity cut him off.

“Your people are calling for you to roll,” he said.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate #MAGA #ignorance

The next morning on #FoxNews, #Trump was still maintaining that “every single poll had us winning by a lot, despite the fact that it was an unfair #debate obviously.”

And the #Fox coverage continued to support that view. “It was a disaster for her last night. … Donald Trump did far better. …Who the hell do they think they are fact-checking?” #House Speaker #MikeJohnson, on #FoxBusiness Network, cited the same “polls” that Trump did, saying, “he clearly prevailed.”

#propaganda #FauxNews #lies

#JDVance, in another interview w/ #FoxNews, said voters “are not going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests & the problems of most Americans.” (He was talking not about Trump but #TaylorSwift.)
In one lonely corner of #Fox, host #NeilCavuto tried to preserve an island of #sanity: “He says …he won the #debate & all the polls show that he won the debate. I haven’t seen a single 1 show that,” he remarked to #Trump surrogate #RFKJr.

“They’re polls that you see on the internet & a lot of them probably have statistical problems w/them,” #RFKJr acknowledged. “I would suspect that the polling over the next wk is going to show probably a slight drop in his support, particularly among independents.”
#Trump responded as though #Cavuto had just eaten his pet. “#NeilCavuto, #Fox’s Lowest Rated Anchor, is one of the WORST on Television,”he posted on social media.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #FoxNews

Of course, #Trump doesn’t have a real pet. #FoxNews is his pet. And if he’s to keep the #MAGA faithful in a state of blissful #ignorance, he’s going to need #Fox to roll over — again & again.

#idiocracy #Trumpaganda #propaganda #disinformation #FauxNews #lies #RT = #RepublicanTV #debate

@Nonilex Vance's quotes will be an enduring historical and comical (and not so comical) fact of this campaign long after he is essentially forgotten.
@Nonilex Maybe Vance is just admitting Trump isn’t a billionaire. ;-)
@Nonilex Ah! The Great Reviews are back in town! 🙄
@Nonilex Weirdly, I agree that ABC was helping Harris. Remember how the Harris campaign was pushing to have both mics on all the time, rather than muted when each candidate wasn't speaking? Remember how ABC never ever ever not even one single time turned off Trump's mic no matter how much he butted in with uncalled-for interruptions and rebuttals and summations? That was helpful to Harris in exactly the way Harris hoped that having Trump be on a live mic all the time would be helpful. I somehow doubt if Trump would be bloviating about "three against one" any less if they'd killed his mic when they should have, but from my perspective, that did make it look a bit like ABC was trying to spin it for Harris by letting Trump run his mouth.

@Nonilex

VP Harris did debate prep, knew her stuff.

@Nonilex Four against one if you add reality.