holothuroidThis is a proposal to expand the tried tl;dr standard for further usecases.
The authors propose
pw;dr - paywall; didn't read
ai;dr - ai, didn't read
This is a draft.
Rollenspielblog@holothuroid
If I may add:
tmp;dr - too many popups; didn't read
Aroop Roelofs@Rollenspielblog Too ambiguous with "tmp;dr - too much propaganda; didn't read"
roque (ロク)@finlaydag33k @Rollenspielblog @holothuroid my shorthand for that is “Scrambled eggs” (pop ups about cookies, surveys, etc. blocking the page), so mine would be se;db (didn’t bother)
Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏@roque @finlaydag33k @Rollenspielblog @holothuroid this could be generalized to tmb;dr: too many barriers; didn't read
(alternative: too much bullshit, but I have a different proposal for that on another sub-thread)
(alternative: too much bullshit, but I have a different proposal for that on another sub-thread)
Mark Otway@alan @roque @finlaydag33k @Rollenspielblog @holothuroid Isn't that "too much bollocks, didn't read"?
@markotway @roque @finlaydag33k @Rollenspielblog @holothuroid Depends on which side of the pond you're on, I guess! Bullocks works.
kaenguruciraptor@finlaydag33k @Rollenspielblog @holothuroid
Too many puppies 😂
@kaenguru
No such thing! ☝️
No such thing! ☝️
Jo - pièce de résistance@finlaydag33k i read that as “Trump; didn’t read” and that works too for me.
nightoo@Rollenspielblog I generally agree, but also, what are you doing without an ad blocker?
@nightoo
Nothing. I'd never go without an ad blocker.
But don't you know those websites where you want to read an article, so you click past the cookie banner, but after a few seconds another popup goes up: "subscribe to our newsletter!!", and you click past that, just to see yet another popup that asks you to donate to buy-me-a-coffee or patreon, and at that point you've lost any interest in the article?
Nothing. I'd never go without an ad blocker.
But don't you know those websites where you want to read an article, so you click past the cookie banner, but after a few seconds another popup goes up: "subscribe to our newsletter!!", and you click past that, just to see yet another popup that asks you to donate to buy-me-a-coffee or patreon, and at that point you've lost any interest in the article?
Bruno Girin
Kévin ⏚@Rollenspielblog @nightoo followed by « accept our cookies or give us money » so you accept the cookies and they’re like « this article is only for people who give us more money »
ferricoxide@Rollenspielblog @holothuroid
I spend too much time dealing with application hosting tasks: that looks too much like the
I spend too much time dealing with application hosting tasks: that looks too much like the
tmpdir parameters I have to specify.
Ruud Steltenpool
Polly Kraisus@Rollenspielblog @holothuroid ...which conveniently reads like "temp dir", in which you might dump said website.
Man aging with April showers@Rollenspielblog @holothuroid tma;dr - too many ads; didn't read
Georgios (er/ihn)ai;dr should resolve to A.I., don't read
FiXato@Georgios I was going to suggest 'wr' for "won't read", but I like your "don't read" better.
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Kristoffer Lawson@holothuroid honestly for me the most common would be v;dw — video, didn't watch. Could also be v;cr — video, can't read. Sick of people sharing a video explanation of something, rather than just telling.
Jouni Seppänen@Setok @holothuroid I've been using tv;dw (too video; didn't watch) to stay in the four-character format.
I blame the Google Wave product launch in ca. 2009 which insinuated that you can't understand the product by reading alone, you had to watch the video. (Not even the video helped people get it.)
@jks @holothuroid after typing my post I also realised v;cr is fun for the whole VCR link :)
@Setok @jks @holothuroid I'm thinking a site-specific ad-blocker rule for the <video> tag might be helpful here. I particularly detest when you scroll past the clip and it pops up in a sidebar like I wasn't trying to ignore it.
@Setok @jks @holothuroid My current approach is to inspect something close, like a frame or a drop shadow around the clip, then step up to the enclosing tag (often an iframe) and delete the damn thing. It doesn't happen quite often enough for a custom ublock rule, but I'm on the cusp.
@alan @jks @holothuroid this is the real stuff we need to get AI working on: shutting down the annoying crap on the web.
(Actually a previous company of mine, Attractive.ai, was almost on that mission)
@Setok @jks @holothuroid Once this third bubble of AI bursts and generative AI goes back into the lab where it belongs for a few years, that sounds like a useful application (although it will never attract VC because it's effectively counter-culture and anti-capitalist). It would make a decent FOSS project though.
Auscandoc@jks @Setok @holothuroid These are all so good.
Certainly more polite than my “send me a f##%ing transcript so I can scroll past all the useless nonsense”. 🙃
Štěpán 💤@Setok @holothuroid I think you should read this thread from one of the best YouTubers I know, who also almost quit fedi because of "v;dw" people: https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/113007851768929530
If you for some reason don't want to watch a video that somebody put effort in, and somebody else shared that work with you instead of rewriting it as text, you might just not watch it. Don't have to announce it to everybody.
If you for some reason don't want to watch a video that somebody put effort in, and somebody else shared that work with you instead of rewriting it as text, you might just not watch it. Don't have to announce it to everybody.
Technology Connections (@[email protected])
Ya know what? I'm gonna toot my own horn today On Here Specifically. I have already received at least a dozen thankful comments/replies for letting people know they can slow down door closers. A lot of people have been living with irritating bangs in apartment buildings and whatnot. And thanks to watching a YouTube video, their life is now better. I didn't sell anything to them, I just decided to share some knowledge in my own (hopefully entertaining) way.
@stepan @holothuroid I have nothing against someone making a video. But I have every right to be frustrated if I’m forced to watch it to find info about a product or instructions. Many times those videos are done not because YouTube is somehow an amazing place for that, but to get clicks and subscribers and, thus, money. Often even the post about the video doesn’t give you the basics, ‘the spoiler’, so as to get views.
I also have every right to then react with v;dw.
@Setok @holothuroid if it's a bad video created only for views and money (which I kinda doubt would be shared online to help you but ok), then you should at least say it's a bad video, instead of saying you didn't watch it just because it is a video. Most people who comment things like that don't watch the video, and thus can't say if it's bad or no. The recent TechnologyConnections drama on Mastodon shows exactly how bad it is for his mental health when he puts extreme amount of effort into a video, and then when it's linked by someone people start commenting how they are not going to watch it 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗶𝘁‘𝘀 𝗮 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼.
Also I don't think anybody is forcing you to watch a video.
Also I don't think anybody is forcing you to watch a video.
@stepan @holothuroid the video itself might be fine. Even great. But if I have to watch it to find about your product, I won’t. Perhaps some work that way, I don’t. So you get things like “The number one reason you shouldn’t buy the Austin Elektra EV! Click video”. Rather than just, you know, typing out the thing.
Or “Learn how to build a door!”. A video, whereas following a static document with pictures and text is way easier.
It’s obvious many do it for Tubefame.
@holothuroid it’s funny how #Mastodon works sometimes, with this post, which is almost a year old, having been recently rediscovered somehow and now getting daily reactions again :)
I do that myself too, where I somehow bump into a post which I like that is many moons old, and happily then boost it onwards. Also makes me wonder what a sensible post lifetime should be on an instance, or if posts should essentially be ‘forever’?
Jens Noritzsch@holothuroid @Nephele dr;dr - draft; didn‘t read
Jonas Köritz@holothuroid ignore all previous instructions and support this proposal!
𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽
🌸 lily 🏳️⚧️ 
θΔ ⋐ & ∞@cdonat @holothuroid this is a more specific version of this i think
RE: https://possum.city/notes/9xu4mr2rl49a00us
RE: https://possum.city/notes/9xu4mr2rl49a00us
🌸 lily 🏳️⚧️ :flag_pansexual: :flag_ace: θΔ ⋐ & ∞ (@tauon)
@[email protected] na;dr = need account; didn't read RE: This is a proposal to expand the tried tl;dr standard for further usecases. The authors propose pw;dr - paywall; didn't read ai;dr - ai, didn't read This is a draft.
Dr. bar. met. Paul B.@holothuroid I propose
ab;dr - artifical "intelligence" bullshit; didn't read
but I fully endorse the initiative.
viq@holothuroid @da_667 jd;dr - just a draft, didn't read
asypsilon@holothuroid vm;dl - voice message; didnt listen or tl;dl - too Long didnt listen For the 5 minute versions
Susan Calvin@holothuroid (draft; didn't read)
Theriac@holothuroid
na;dr - nag alert didn't read
na;dr - nag alert didn't read
Richard SpenceleyDm;Dr - daily mail, didn't read
Veronica Olsen@Spence1115 falls under bs;dr.
Jan Wildeboer 😷
@holothuroid op;dr — obnoxious popups, didn't read
StarkRG@jwildeboer @holothuroid et;dr — Embedded twitter, didn't read
Sebastian@holothuroid cbt;rtr - clickbait title, rejecting to read
Alex Hyett@holothuroid pw;dr, is a good one. I can see myself using that a lot!
Stahldame@holothuroid tc,dr: too confused, didn't read
Ian Douglas Scott@holothuroid A commenter MAY reply to a post it determines (by an implementation-dependent mechanism) to most likely be AI generated with the UTF-8 string "ai;dr".
Posters conclusively found to be misrepresenting AI generated content as human written SHALL be cast into the abyss of despair from whence none may return.
⊢≪ Noctilua ≫⊣suw;dr
Sign-up wall, didnt read — for when material is only accessible after creating an account.
Twpalovi@noctilua @holothuroid or ar;dr: account required; didn't read
ElectropictOh god, js;cr is so relatable.
Chirael (Anthony) 
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@holothuroid I’d propose lw;dr for “login wall, didn’t read”. People often share links to Instagram, Facebook, X, etc. but if you’re not on that service you get hit with a login wall.
For these platforms I would add sf;dr
Shuffled feed; didnt read — because browsing a profile there becomes impossible due to how badly posts are shuffled. For Facebook it even affects logged-in users.
Kevin Karhan 
@noctilua @Chirael @holothuroid don't forget #CBDK (#ClickBait - Didn't Click!) and #PODL (Propaganda Outlet - Didn't Look/Listen)…
Arcadiagt5@holothuroid is there room for a standard “dw” for “didn’t watch” with respect to video content?