#ElonMusk is posting information to portray both Mastodon and Instagram as child pornography sites.

These two social networks are X competitors, and Musk is using his own social network to misrepresent his competitors to 196 million followers.

Imagine if 196 million Volkswagen drivers received multiple messages on their car stereo from the CEO of Volkswagen that other car brands were "child porn car brands".

I doubt European competition laws would allow that.

@randahl and it's just complete nonsense. Instagram doesn't even allow as much as a nipple on their platform. And Mastodon/the fediverse has a lot of moderation. If a local instance allows such things, they'll make sure it won't be visible to the rest.

@karelbrits
It is deliberate nonsense, as it's the basics of never playing defence and controlling the conversation.

See this playlist, repeat at least yearly.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ

@randahl

Before you continue to YouTube

@dzwiedziu @karelbrits @randahl deliberate nonsense, or as we call it here outright lies.
Jenna Ortega says she deleted Twitter after seeing explicit AI images of herself as a minor

Jenna Ortega said she deleted X after a "terrifying" experience encountering AI-generated pornographic images of herself on the platform when she was a minor.

NBC News
@karelbrits @randahl I figured Elon’s tweet was prompted by a news story about child pornography on Twitter, and here it is, AI generated to boot.
@randahl idk if I ever saw child porn on here but I saw some people touching themselves and masturbating. All I did just block them and never saw or hear from them. I never received private message from some scammer or onlyfans girl/guy which on Twitter a happens all the time.

@randahl

Dear Santa Claus, I've been good. I'm even being kinder.

What I'd like for Christmas is for French police to arrest Elon Musk for breaching laws.

If you think I've been very good then seeing Zuckerberg arrested too would really be cracking!

And neither of these presents will make your present delivery round even one second longer.

Merry Christmas to all, even Elon and Mark in a French jail cell.
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@randahl It's a direct consequence of the Mastodon software being open source. There's a whole ecosystem of Japanese sites running it that would be deemed child porn in western jurisdictions - but it's completely sealed off from the Fediverse proper. There is also one site running Mastodon software featuring a notorious malignant narcissist and would-be dictator spouting his filth and lies, it too closed off from the actual Fediverse.
@martinvermeer @randahl AFAIK the Japanese sites actually run on Misskey, not Mastodon?

@audunmb @martinvermeer not all, Pawoo is one of these fairly big japanese instances that has been connected to this and it runs Mastodon for example

@randahl

@martinvermeer @randahl I'm not sure what you're talking about so I might be off base here but: I don't think art is considered child porn in the West. Not in the US, at least.
@winterayars @randahl My understanding is that it is about drawn renderings, like animations (or nowadays generative AI), not involving real children, but otherwise pornographic. Usually not 'art'.
@randahl This is interesting, considering the distributed nature of Mastodon. He can pretend not to get it.
Also, this should be an excuse for Meta for a *huge* slam-dunk lawsuit.

@randahl

#Telegram
Hey Europe or #France you are a step ahead in the right direction as always, in helping to keep the world safer & saner, but if you really want to be honest and transparent, you should start from the #zuckerbergs & #musks.

Then all the world will know you are serious.

There are larger and more dangerous sites like #facebook #whatsapp #twitter #tiktok, etc but hey let's arrest the lesser ones who don't have enough to buy us out.
#Europe #Law #Order #World #Safety #Lives

@randahl
And again its this weird kind of right wing projection:
X is growing in porn related posts - and does nothing about it.
Damn hypocrite.

@randahl

Given that every statement from MAGAts is pure projection...

Guess it's time for LE to scour Xitter for CSAM.

Looks to me like the Chief Moron is confessing.

🫏🤡🫏🤡

@lupus_blackfur @randahl

It does seem to be a thing that preys on his mind. Who can say why.

@randahl
I think Mastodon gGmbH should sue Musk, similarly as Imame Khelif sued him and JKKK Rowling.

@randahl Hate to say this but from my own eyes have seen only FB and Instagram with Twitter and X were and maybe still some of the worse places to find FRAUD and SCAMMERS over the last 7 years and have been part of investigation to CURTAIL some actions and WOULD NEVER GIVE any good reference to places who DO NOT STOP SOME OF THE WORSE ACTIONS AGAINST PEOPLE

MASTODON has PROVEN to be a SAFE place now for last 2 years as far as have seen and experienced 👍👍👍

@randahl I’ve always wondered about Orwell’s 1984 novel. He was prescient in many ways but in retrospect “big brother” isn’t necessarily the government but instead big media moguls like Musk or Murdoch or Berlusconi with millions of complacent, unthinking consumers who never question the crap their masters are feeding them.

@michaelormsby @randahl
It seems like in the book, Orwell’s totalitarian state grows out of the military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned about. it makes sense - that was a huge economic juggernaut post WWII.

I don’t think Orwell was prescient enough to understand the threat of Capitalism and the attention economy driving authoritarianism.

@SteveYYC @randahl Good point. Orwell wrote his book based on the forces of the time.

What we have now is a different beast. The ideological labels of communism / capitalism seem less important than staggering inequalities of wealth and new forms of media that fit in our pockets under complete control of oligarchs. Joseph Goebbels would have been envious.

@randahl And of course the whataboutism begins. The difference is that Mastodon and Instagram have better moderation, giving child predators no quarter. On Telegram I have seen public groups dedicated to selling drugs and sharing videos of underage children fighting, and nothing has been done to them regardless of reporting. Telegram claims that they have enough moderators but apparently this is not the case. By making these accusations, Musk is trying to save his own arse.
@Rynach @randahl This.
He fired all those Trust & Safety people, turned Twitter into an absolute cesspool & now is a little worried allowing the worst of humanity on his platform might finally catch up with him.
@randahl Every post that anyone posts on X is in fact a direct support action for a fascist fakenews producer.
@randahl I saw this on X this morning. Elon Musk should be ashamed of himself
@randahl After the reveal that twitter is owned by the russians and saudis, this seems like a desperate and largely pointless attempt at deflection.
@randahl I bet X has been fined again by Australian courts😆
@randahl Based on the garbage I've seen on Shitter, I think he's projecting.
@randahl if you want decentralization, you'll definitely have to deal with Mayhem. I actually believe that mastodon has done a good job, but in my opinion a mixture of both worlds, where you have a central authority but being able to create your own rooms in private servers, would be ideal. I also think that in order to avoid these creeps and illegal activities, KYC is the best way. Accountability is key for irresponsible behavior in social media.

@randahl @Dodo_sipping That is interesting 🤔 I’m having my own little experiment on Twitter/X. I made an account a few weeks ago without doing anything, no comments, not opening tweets, nothing. On the first day my inbox was filled with pornography and terrible video’s of children being hung 😳
I marked all this as “not relevant” and finally it’s gone.

https://mastodon.nl/@ericschutte/112925939064618825

Eric Schutte (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @LiefhebberV Yesterday I too made a X/Twitter account to see what happens. I had to follow 1 other account and I chose the NOS (dutch news), I said NO to every option. I was greeted with a lot of porn, I labeled them as “not relevant” and it became less. I do not follow or comment, just watch what fills my screen. I see a lot of Trump-related tweets, some conspiracy, I also got a lot of gruesome video’s like kids being hung, woman being executed. It’s not like Mastodon.

Mastodon.nl door Stichting Activityclub
@randahl that's weird. In two years on Mastodon I've barely seen any porn of any kind. And on dead bird I was always getting follow requests from sleazy dubious characters. It's a relief not to need to be blocking. Barely blocked anyone since I got here. He needs to remove the beam from his own eye before he starts fretting over the mote in someone else's.
@randahl funny isn't it? Elon Musk is a loser.
@randahl on the contrary Elon Musk is actually a pedophile I was shown a picture that had him pointing to a sign that he was a pedophile. Lol

@randahl

There will come a point where this will fire back at him…

@randahl

How come I've never seen any on Mastodon.

But no doubt the decentralized nature of the fediverse may allow some minor instances to operate using the Mastodon software.

I wonder how much child porn is manipulated using Photoshop, better go after Adobe and the digital camera manufacturers.

@the5thColumnist @randahl

You don't see it, because their lying it from you. That's why. I chose the correct side. I don't see child porn.

@randahl Didn't Twitter develop some pretty serious problems in that same direction once Musk fired trust and safety?
@randahl anything to curb competition. No matter how innovative and revolutionary a leader appears to be, how can one trust the leader with such value systems?

@randahl
It also might be interseting to note that Andrea Stroppa, a relatively young Italian IT nerd is listed as co-owner of Twitter (currently by some called "X").

Stroppa was the one who tried to taint the then actual and former Twitter board members by digging out the few alledgedly not addressed child porn cases on Twitter in order to help Musk's litigation against Twitter about it's actual value when he tried to chicken out of his insane deal.

@randahl @campuscodi ah, brings back memories of him calling the qualified cave diving expert a “Pedo” cause Musk’s ideas how to rescue kids were dumb
@randahl I want to comment on this, but it's so difficult to scroll past all the CP here in this thread 🙄
@randahl That headline is a scurrilous lie. The majority of content on Mastodon is people complaining about images without alt text.
@randahl
Some Mastodon instances do have problems policing CSAM, though. Not to justify Musk's cheap shot, when his network is actively working to destroy modern democracy. But then: If you are still on Twitter you are bound to receive all kinds of strange stuff. From penis enlargement to right-wing propaganda.
@briankrebs

@randahl Well, well. After a short bit of scrolling I saw this thread from @Nonilex about France arresting the head of Telegram for not stopping sex crimes against minors on the platform, and Elon defending him because of “free speech.”

https://masto.ai/@Nonilex/113029123843570376

Nonilex (@[email protected])

…A police spox told Reuters that #Durov is under investigation by the national #CyberCrime & #fraud offices for failing to cooperate over cyber & financial #crimes on #Telegram…. Durov's arrest prompted criticism from X owner [chaos tool & #disinformation agent] #ElonMusk who said that free speech in #Europe was under attack, & calls from #Moscow for French authorities to accord Durov his rights. #law

Mastodon
@randahl I think there is an API that big tech companies can use to block known CSAM (hosted by Microsoft?) but I think it would be very hard to use it with Mastodon as it requires NDAs and contracts around the software that produces the hashes of the images for submission to the API and every instance would likely need to do that separately.

@randahl This all overlooks a pretty glaring difference between Twitter and Mastodon: Twitter is a service provider; Mastodon is a computer program that serves an internet protocol.

Him attacking Mastodon isn't going after a competitor for the very reason his attack makes zero fucking sense: Mastodon isn't even in the same market. What, should Apache be on the hook also? More CP on Apache probably.

The whole framing is all fucked up--don't even agree to the terms they're using.

@randahl @Lazarou Yeah, and Twitter is perfect in every way. /s
@PaulNickson @randahl a projection so big it covers the Moon. We see you Elon
@Lazarou @randahl Does he *really* think that Shitter will be the only SM site left after this purge I hope we’re having?!
@PaulNickson @randahl with the a-hole in the k-hole I think he actually might.
See also how JK Rowling can't shut up, there is nobody in their lives who can tell them 'No'
@Lazarou @randahl These idiots can’t even spell ‘no’ let alone understand its meaning. However as you say this will not end well with the shysters we have ‘in charge’.
@randahl good to know we are having such an impact, that he has to make up shit.