Elon Musk keeps predicting civil war in the UK. That's nonsense, as we can see from the massive turnout of decent, peace-loving, tolerant citizens who stood against a tiny number of thuggish racists.

The reason Musk holds this belief is that he has completely surrounded himself on Twitter with people exactly like the racist hoodlums who have been terrorizing immigrants and asylum seekers. He's created his own not-so-little bubble of fashdom, and believes it represents a majority. He's wrong.

@bodhipaksa from what I've heard Musk is actively trying to incite civil unrest in the UK. I swear he thinks he's God now.

@morag Yes, Musk's "predictions" are actually incitements. Not only does he believe that fascists are in the majority, but he loathes liberals and believes that cohabitation with them is impossible, so that they have to be subjugated. He holds this view in common with many of his fellow tech-bros, some of whom are talking about ethnically cleansing liberals

It's almost certainly worse than you imagine.

https://www.sacurrent.com/news/san-antonio-us-rep-chip-roy-says-he-wants-to-ethnic-cleanse-white-progressives-34866152

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/the-horrifying-fascist-manifesto-endorsed-by-j.d.-vance

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

San Antonio U.S. Rep. Chip Roy says he wants to 'ethnic cleanse' white progressives

U.S. Rep. Chip Roy, a Republican whose district includes a swath of North San Antonio, called for the "cleansing" of progressives in a rant posted Friday on social media platform X. The GOP congressman, who's made inflammatory comments part of his political brand, fired off the tweet in a defense of Trump's plans to deport some 20 million migrants if elected president.

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@bodhipaksa @briankrebs it’s a very very very asymmetric civil war. Very. Should be over shortly.

@Codhisattva @bodhipaksa @briankrebs
They're all assuming that they're the only ones who know how to arm themselves, but if it actually comes to a real civil war, they'll find out exactly how mistaken they were in that assumption.

Of course, we'd prefer not to fight if we can avoid it, but if they start a fight, they can be goddamn sure that we will finish it.

@bodhipaksa why believe Elon Musk? Why even listen him?
@chusgc @bodhipaksa because lots of people *do* listen to him, and so it's important to know what they are being told.

@chusgc People believe him because they admire him or share his values. And you don't have to listen to him to know what he's saying. He's a public figure and his words are often repeated.

I'm not really clear what point you're trying to make.

@bodhipaksa That we expend too much energy trying to counter his nonsense. Everyday. It's Brandolinis law. It costs him 10–100 times less to spread his bullshit around and in the end we are his repeating systems too.

It's better to decrease his speech within our dissertation on how wrong he is.

I'm not able to express it the way I think it within this format.

@chusgc Well, you do you and I'll do me. If I feel inclined to comment on something he's said I'll do just that. It takes up very little of my time.
@bodhipaksa @briankrebs He’d better hope he’s wrong because it looks like it would be over in a day and he wouldn’t like the results.
@bodhipaksa What we need is a civil war against Elon Musk.
@bodhipaksa The image forgets to include the police in the orange circle; this is obviously anti-racist propaganda. /s
@bodhipaksa How much must it cost to have two rows of cops to make sure these folks can be heard? Why are we doing that? If the cops go home, so do the racists in this picture.
@Rain I don't think any of the racists were heard, and that police were there to protect them from the much larger crowd (even though they were peaceful).
@bodhipaksa Enh. They could have escorted them away instead of standing there and letting them talk.
@Rain I have no idea what their game plan was or what they did after this photograph was taken. Perhaps they did escort them away? (Although I imagine that would have been challenging, given the extent of turn surrounding crowd.) Do you happen to know?
@bodhipaksa Not specifically, but I’ve been to rallies like this before, and the police tend to try to “keep the peace” by protecting the provocateurs from any consequences of their speech. The end result looks a lot like this picture, so I made the assumption that the same thing was happening here.
@bodhipaksa
Interesting. This crowd could overwhelm the police as well these Racists. But they are peaceful.
@Dergoran It's a beautiful example of love overcoming hatred. Most of the fascists didn't even show up because they realized they were outnumbered. Those who did show up didn't do anything. Hopefully they'll go home demoralized, and be less keen on making violent plans in future. Now they know the truth: they are a tiny, out-of-step minority.
@bodhipaksa There will be no civil war. There *will be an uptick in right-wing terror, which I insist on calling #RadicalRepublicanTerror here in the US - waiting for the "good" Republicans to name and denounce it as such and counter the training and radicalization of their cohort. Still waiting...
@MaierAmsden Trump keeps hoping his people are going to turn violent en masse. He was obviously hoping for large disruptive crowds at his trials, but they failed to materialize. Instead there were just a few sad weirdoes. And yes, there will be stochastic right-wing terrorism, especially if he wins, because they'll be emboldened. If he loses there will be much less violence, because they'll be demoralized.
@bodhipaksa And the police are circling, valiantly protecting their far-right buddies. Kind of like a reverse kettle.

@bodhipaksa

https://mastodonapp.uk/@thewritertype/112926627804879471

"Please note: the civil war in the UK has been cancelled owing to a massive display of human decency on one side and the other side not showing up."

https://mastodonapp.uk/@thewritertype/112926627804879471

Paul Bassett Davies (@[email protected])

Please note: the civil war in the UK has been cancelled owing to a massive display of human decency on one side and the other side not showing up.

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@bodhipaksa the racists should be shitting themselves

@bodhipaksa
Yes and no.
Yes, musk is full of shit, but as a Canadian living in England for nearly 50 years, I’m AMAZED (and delighted) that the antfascists bothered to turn up, especially in such numbers.

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.

“Stiff upper lip. Don’t make a fuss. It’ll all turn out right in the end.”
The English mantra.

The French wouldn’t have put up with this shit for so long.

@bodhipaksa Elon Musk is a lot of things but a person who can see social trends and predict events is not one of the things he’s go at. Musk is a power hungry individual who takes credit for other people’s genius. Musk feels entitled to the power he hungers for but his biggest problem is Elon Musk.

@bodhipaksa

He's also know for thinking heroin is fun, and being an awful parent. Pure coincidence, I imagine.

@bodhipaksa Seeing photos like this was sure a welcome change from the photos/reporting from prior days. The racists can be so loud and destructive that you can lose sight of what a minority they are.

@bodhipaksa

Pics like this give me hope.

Sometimes, with all the negatives that are promoted on social media, I feel my country is circling the drain and there are no decent people left.

And sometimes, at times like this, I'm proud to be British.

Down with the fascists, the racists and the bigots. They have no place in my country.

@SpeedStar It's good to see, and I have to say I was surprised by the size of the turnout. I thought the British people were too exhausted and demoralized to show up in such massive numbers. Perhaps the recent election (although, hollow laugh, I don't expect much from Labour) has given people new hope.

@bodhipaksa

I guess there are still good people out there and sm just drives the negativity

I hope you are right! They can't be much worse than the self serving mob of the last 14 years!