Alaina MartinWhat makes people NOT LIKE that #threads is apart of the #fediverse? 👀 #mastodon #metaverse #meta #instagram #facebook
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@alainamartin gatekeepers maybe
Jerry on Mastodon1. Seems some people have decided that the ActivityPub protocol was created only for the purpose of connecting non-corporate social media together. I never saw evidence that this was a design principle, but they believe it.
2. Fear that advertising will somehow come into the Fediverse.
3. Unwillingness to connect to the people who use Threads because they associate with billionaires and corporations by using their software. Their kind just isn't welcome here.
4. Meta will come for our servers, steal personal information, overwhelm our servers and leave us with a pile of burning hardware. mastodon.social, so far, seems to be doing fine.
BTW, everything in the Fediverse is in clear text, and you don't need to follow people to read their stuff. No doubt Facebook, and other corporates, and governments, have been reading everything already.
Generally, they feel in their heart that supporting Threads is supporting evil. That people who use Threads are therefore supporting evil. I've gotten plenty of nasty responses because I don't block Threads on my server. There's even a list of servers that refuse to block Threads so those fighting the evil can defederate from Threads-connected servers.
You'll find a lot of anger from some when suggesting that people on Threads be followed on the Fediverse.
@Jerry @[email protected] wow idk it was that intense 😟
@alainamartin @BeAware
They weren't really de-federated. They were on a de-federated Meta list for 30 minutes before Meta took them off the list, permanently. But, Meta never acted. They were never disconnected from Threads. It was apparently just a typo.
They weren't really de-federated. They were on a de-federated Meta list for 30 minutes before Meta took them off the list, permanently. But, Meta never acted. They were never disconnected from Threads. It was apparently just a typo.
Andres Jalinton@Jerry @alainamartin @BeAware
Agree, btw Mastodon.Social was defederated by Threads, that's why they are doing so good.
Agree, btw Mastodon.Social was defederated by Threads, that's why they are doing so good.
@Andres @Jerry @[email protected] what does that mean? lol I’m a baby to the whole fediverse is threads and mastodon ran by same company or what do you mean
@alainamartin
ActivityPub is a protocol, much like email.
Different companies like Meta (Threads), Mastodon,
Friendica, Peertube, Pixelfed, etc. uses the ActivityPub protocol to communicate (federate)
The Fediverse is the collection of software and servers (mostly independent people helping each other) and when they don't agree on terms of usage they defederate (block) each other.
hackbyte Antifa (friendica) 13HB1@alainamartin I simply don't use metas services because i don't wanna feed their purse. And so i absolutely dislike the idea to get fucked from behind by meta just joining the fediverse.
@hackbyte I can totally understand that, I just deleted the app last night I still go on desktop because my business but I want to build on here!
@alainamartin Yeah i still have a fckbook and a twitter account ... i just don't feed them anything except looking up a random url now and then.
It's too sad that one still needs some representation on those platforms for business reasons.
@hackbyte right smh Im launching my podcast and all my potential guests are on FB 😅 but I’ve been on FB for like 10-20 years which is CRAZY!!!
Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸@alainamartin Zuckerberg.
But the way I see it, if the goal is an Open Fediverse where everyone can have the choice to be on the server they want, then that choice has to include corporations... so... 🤷♂️
@alainamartin
Personally as an admin on my own instance, I blocked Threads because its association with Meta and its links to genocide (Myanmar).
Personally as an admin on my own instance, I blocked Threads because its association with Meta and its links to genocide (Myanmar).
AmgineMy personal list:
It is meta, with history of acting against the interests of their users. (Therefore, avoid incentivizing users to be a part of Threads/meta.)
Threads is not part of the #fediverse. Not all public content is available in either direction; threads users are not usually aware of #fedi responses.
[unsourced/unverified] I am told Threads users see what an algorithm selects for them to see, partially supported by above point.
For me, history is important.
@amgine okay because I wasn’t sure and downloaded thread today to see if that would be a better “instance” for me not sure if I’m using the right wording. But when I was on I didn’t see people from other instances so I was super confused because they said they were apart of the #fediverse
In the #fediverse, every server may choose which other servers they will allow connections. Some servers share blocklists of servers which are poorly administrated, and/or have very different cultural/world views within their community. For example, M Trump's TruthSocial is in the fediverse - servers can connect to it - but is nearly universally shunned due to anti-social activities (bots, attacks both social and digital.)
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Threads partially allows some communication, but they hide the method to 'enable' the fediverse. And they censor messages from outside Threads with some very odd filters, apparently.
And, as I said, they decide what you see. Which is exactly what the fediverse does not.
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FinchHaven sfbaI was going to reply but you've done just fine with this
Filling in some details, as this issue keeps coming up
1) for #Threads to say that it's #Federated with #Mastodon is -- in short -- a lie
It's marketing PR buzzwords that no one can prevent #Meta from using
2) Threads posts can under some circumstances be seen on Mastodon -- but they are clones only -- I have about ten of the Threads top brass on a Mastodon #List
Replies to them here do not propagate back over to the original post on Threads --they do not show up over there, and I've checked this dozens of times
3) I have had one Reply here to someone from my List, but when I asked him if he'd seen my reply over on Threads and was replying from over there, or if he'd merely seen my reply on the cloned copy over here, he vanished and never answered
Hope this helps a little -- it's a long and confusing issue,,,
Hazelnoot@alainamartin for me, personally:
- Meta has a terrible track record of human rights.
- Threads' privacy policy allows them to sell posts, media, and profiles from other instances without consent.
- If they ever fully open federation for all accounts, the load would cripple most smaller instances. Fediverse server applications are mostly unoptimized.
- Threads allows forms of bigotry that I can't tolerate. For example, Libs of Tiktok is a highly-popular hate account hosted by threads.
#FediMeta #Meta #Threads #InstagramThreads #MetaThreads
- Meta has a terrible track record of human rights.
- Threads' privacy policy allows them to sell posts, media, and profiles from other instances without consent.
- If they ever fully open federation for all accounts, the load would cripple most smaller instances. Fediverse server applications are mostly unoptimized.
- Threads allows forms of bigotry that I can't tolerate. For example, Libs of Tiktok is a highly-popular hate account hosted by threads.
#FediMeta #Meta #Threads #InstagramThreads #MetaThreads
Jon (now at neuromatch.social)@alainamartin here's a long article I wrote about this last year, with the perspectives of people who don't like it as well as people who do. Opinions differ! https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism/
@jdp23 I’ll check it out!