PersephoneJul 3, 2024
Ok new rule. If you're banning politics from your open source project you are doing it intentionally to build a nazi bar

There have been enough very public examples now of what happens when you start trying to ban politics from your open source project.

You don't get to play "oh I didn't know" and be all gas lightly. Nope. You know and you did it with intention. Tough shit, this is on you. You've got yourself into the position of maintaining an open source project. Just like becoming a billionaire, that doesn't happen by accident. You didn't just touch a computer for the first time yesterday and start an open source project. You know what you are doing enough to know this.
Show threadFlesh 🐀 Jul 3, 2024
@mindpersephone I feel like there's two very distinct kinds of "no politics" that can be difficult to tell apart in places.
There's "anyone welcome, but do not talk about the genocide/elections", which can be valid. Politics can get heated and upsetting, it's fair to want a space without that. Not exactly a fan of that, big infestation chance, but still.
And there's "acknowledging the existence of women/gays/trans people is pushing an agenda", which just sucks.
Show threadPersephoneJul 3, 2024
@flesh the issue with the first one is when reading some projects rules is it's usually impossible to tell from the second one.

The first one is usually better served with a "keep conversations in project channels on topic" rule. If they aren't actually evil bastards, that's probably what they mean any way.
Show threadFlesh 🐀 
@mindpersephone It's not always easy to distinguish, but I feel like there's certainly ways to put the idea across clearly enough to make it possible.
A big thing I think is telling is whether they seem to refer to politics as an unwanted topic for comfort or as some abstract evil invasive thing that needs to be stamped out.
Also, any use of the word "agenda" or similar easily betrays the latter.
Jul 3, 2024 at 6:04pmWeb
Show threadFlesh 🐀 Jul 3, 2024
@mindpersephone Also also, good spaces should have clear rules against hate speech.
So if the rules are there and feel like a genuine inclusion rather than rote, it's probably a less hostile space.