I watched the Channel 4 programme tonight 'NHS in Crisis? The Debate'.
Unless I blinked and missed it... Oh just at the very end Matthew Taylor has mentioned poverty...
I was about to say no one has mentioned austerity and the impact on the population, though there was some talk on the need for prevention rather cure
Krishnan Guru-Murthy squeezed in as much as he could, but it really needed a longer programme.
To those who are determined to change the system, please note:
"There is little evidence that one particular ‘type’ of health care system or model of health care funding produces systematically better results than another. Countries predominantly try to achieve better health outcomes by improving their existing model of health care, rather than by adopting a radically different model."
It's ridiculous to expect first rate care on the cheap.
"Compared to other countries, the UK does not spend a particularly high proportion of its national wealth on health care, while a decade of historically low funding increases has left services facing huge pressures and a workforce crisis. Like... how much is spent on health is a political choice and politicians should be honest with the public about the standards of care they can expect with the levels of funding provided."
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/long-reads/health-and-social-care-england-myths
@Jennifer I'm not aware of what went before but in my lifetime, since the Reagan/Thatcher love-in, whatever you guys do... the UK seems to follow.
Well, I should correct that. The Scots have more sense, and seem averse to the neo-liberal nonsense that is destroying us. I don't have a clear understanding of the Welsh and the Irish temperament, though the Welsh usually seem to vote Labour.
@Jennifer I have family in Ohio. I remember visiting and being appalled that one family member was suffering but a doctor couldn't be called.
On another occasion, my ex-husband's uncle needed treatment but could only obtain hospital care by agreeing to take part in a research project. I still don't know whether or not he received a placebo. He died.
These incidents were shocking to me then... but the road we're heading down here now... Heaven help us. 🤷🏻♀️
@Jennifer awh Jennifer... I'm so sorry.
How frustrating to have the 'system' decide your future...
That amount must be out of reach for many. I have been familiar with your system for some time but it still shocks me. Probably why I get so frustrated with folk who think insurance would be better. Some always think the grass is greener!
(What you call a deductible, we refer to as an 'excess'. For us we're more familiar with this concept on car and property insurance policies.)
Take care.
@Jennifer corruption, greed, money in there back pockets...
There seems to be zero integrity in public life these days.
Just as Trump lies and gets away with it, our version, Johnson started that particular rot.
The latest scandal over here is betting on the date of the election by those working in and alongside government.
Surely even a child would know that was wrong?
The world's gone mad.
'Night 'night for now Jennifer. It's late here.
Sleep well when the time comes for you to go to bed. Sweet dreams.
Oh... and I should add I hate lobbyists/political donations/'gifts' and whatever else twists democracy...
Sorry to link to the dead bird site, but this list is a good one. It's significant in UK terms but probably not what you guys are used to...
@Keir_Starmer Total donations from private healthcare companies to Labour MPs 2020-2023 Keir Starmer £157,500 Stella Creasey £5,000 Yvette Cooper £231,817 Rachel Reeves £14,840 Angela Rayner £50,000 David Lammy £1,640 Wes Streeting £193,225 Total £654,022 Tory list in🧵 https://t.co/8J1Kv34kRV
@Jennifer @TalktoBeverley The USA is to blame for the collapse of universal healthcare as they add the handing over of national health care to FTA's.
I strongly dislike the USA. The USA is our terrorist.
I don't know where that other person is based... Canada perhaps?
I'm not prepared to click on any of the links in her feed to find out.
I just shrugged it off as a weird interjection into the conversation...
@TalktoBeverley @Jennifer I'm Australian. The USA puts FTA negotiation pressure on countries like the UK and Australia with demands of handing our health systems over to the US private health insurance companies. The orange man was stupid enough brag about this.
The US tries to have Australia's Pharmaceutical Benefits scheme abolished so prescriptions sell at high costs.
The USA is our terrorist.
Thank you. Now I get it (because of articles I've read around the consequences of Brexit.) Though I know pretty much nothing about Australian systems.
There's so much that goes on, hidden from view. People vote blind, thinking they understand. It's terrifying really.
The potential consequences of this year's elections are more frightening than I ever remember.
We have drug shortages in the UK because of the self-inflicted wound universally known as 'Brexit'.
Right-wingers who planned it promised the sun, the moon and the stars, but seem to have got away scot-free, leaving ordinary folk paying the price.
Beverley
Jennifer
Sheree Honeyflower