Hitler was sentenced to 5 years in prison. But he only served 9 months due to a sympathetic judiciary and massive public outcry from his political supporters. If that sounds uncomfortably familiar, it should.
@shoq I get what you're saying. Also, Hitler was released from prison in late 1924 when he was 35 years old. Trump is 77. Just sayin'. :)
@teleskiguy MAGAs have never cared a lick about Donald Trump’s age, health, intellect, character, integrity, honestly, business acumen, bankruptcies, or humanity. So I’m not sure of your point.
@shoq My clumsy point aside (age difference between fascists a hundred years apart) do you think after today's events the MAGA movement will grow? I don't think it will.
@teleskiguy @shoq I think the Republican response today proves you wrong. This is just going to entrench all those people who’ve drunk the koolaid.
@shoq His brain is deteriorating by the minute. This election is his last shot. When the next one comes around, I would be surprised if he is even able to speak comprehensibly (relatively listening to him now) at all.
I don't think you win an election with just your cult, you need chunks of the undecided voters. I don't think a display such as this trial is and was help with that. @teleskiguy
@teleskiguy @shoq his age may be our salvation.
@pelha @teleskiguy @shoq you probably should hope that he stays around long enough to avoid leaving a vacuum for someone else to fill.
@que @pelha @shoq Would love to hear who you think would fill this vacuum.
@teleskiguy @pelha @shoq no idea, and dont really want to waste energy on it tbh :)
@que @pelha @shoq That's fair. Just keep names like J.D. Vance (Republican US Senator from Ohio) and Josh Hawley (Republican US Senator from Missouri) and Tom Cotton (Republican US Senator from Arkansas) in mind. Peace be with you.
@teleskiguy @shoq Good point. Relevant point. Wonder if it’s enough.

@ckent @shoq We're talking on the Fediverse, which has been going on for well over 10 years…

What do we do?

@teleskiguy @shoq with 77 he should be wiser and not such an ….
@shoq chilling doesn’t do the enormity justice
@shoq it made me close the app
@shoq
yeah but is the plague still running rampant at Riker's 😀

@shoq

Republican megadonors will simply shift from funding Trump's legal defense, to a pressure campaign on judges to reduce his sentence or GOP law makers to provide a pardon.

@shoq That's why I hesitate to celebrate too soon.

@shoq

No, it doesn't sound familiar. 1) mangolini isn't going to jail for this unless he violates his terms of release, and if so at sentencing he'll get CTS. 2) america is not in the grip of a simultaneous depression, hyperinflation and paying war reparations, creating the fertile economic grounds for a hitler to take root.

@shoq I don't think Judge Merchan is going to be swayed by the fury of Trump's supporters. I expect a sentence of probation and a large fine since he's a first-time offender convicted of low-level, non-violent felonies.
@shoq The majority of everyday MAGA are cosplay cowards. The influence comes from dark money behind the scenes.

@shoq

I understand that reading these horrific words are offensive and disturbing fellow citizens.

But the American people must understand that the Republican Party is now literally echoing the words of Hitler, with the momentary exception of replacing other minorities for the Jewish people.

However history records they will eventually get around to everyone, until feasting even upon themselves.
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"Why does the world shed crocodile’s tears over the richly merited fate of a small Jewish minority? … I ask Roosevelt, I ask the American people: Are you prepared to receive in your midst these well-poisoners of the German people and the universal spirit of Christianity? We would willingly give everyone of them a free steamer-ticket and a thousand-mark note for travelling expenses, if we could get rid of them."
Adolf Hitler, Interview in the New York Staatszeitung, 1933

@shoq

There were three types of prison in Germany at that time:
- Prison: thieves, fraudsters, robbers
- Zuchthaus: sex offenders, murderers, communists. Deprivation of civil rights and the right to vote. Hard forced labour
- Imprisonment in a fortress: aristocrats, political murderers with right-wing convictions. Not dishonourable. Daily release on word of honour

Hitler was imprisoned in a fortress. During the day, his aristocratic fans invited him to the city's tea rooms and cafés. In the evenings, he dictated Mein Kampf to his deputy Rudolf Hess. He was released when only the first volume of Mein Kampf was finished; he was only able to write the second volume many years later due to a lack of time after his premature release.

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Es gab damals drei Arten von Gefängnis in Deutschland:
- Gefängnis: Diebe, Betrüger, Räuber
- Zuchthaus: Sexualverbrecher, Mörder, Kommunisten. Entzug der bürgrrlichen Ehrenrechte und des Wahlrechts. Schwere Zwangsarbeit
- Festungshaft: Adelige, politsche Mörder aus rechter Gesinnung. Nicht ehrenrührig. Täglicher Freigang auf Ehrenwort

Hitler war in Festungshaft. Tagsüber haben seine Adligen Fans ihn in die Teestuben und Ausflugscafes der Stadt eingeladen. Abends hat er seinem Stellvertreter Rudolf Hess Mein Kampf diktiert. Er wurde entlassen als erst der erste Band von Mein Kampf fertig war, den zweiten Band konnte er aus Zeitmangel nach der vorzeitigen Entlassung erst viele Jahre später schreiben.

@shoq Hitler was actually tried and jailed for organising a coup within a few months after the event. Trump is still waiting four years later
@shoq Not over for Trump yet though, more trials to come..👀
"Hitler fue condenado a 5 años de prisión. Pero sólo cumplió nueve meses debido a la simpatía de un poder judicial y a la protesta pública masiva de sus partidarios políticos. Si esto le resulta incómodamente familiar, debería serlo."
@shoq
@shoq The judiciary here is the NY State judiciary and it's not sympathetic to Trump. And, as usual, what matters with public outcry is: who has the power? The German judiciary that pardoned Hitler was full of Nazi sympathizers. In this case the maggats can outcry as much as they want. NY state can, and will, ignore them.
@shoq It's going to happen again.
@shoq the bad people have learned many lessons from Hitler and the 3rd Reich and the Nixon years- and they used that knowledge to get around whatever we imagined a fail safe was- we still are not matching them in terms of organization and community cohesion-
@shoq In the end Hitler was a loser who killed himself and had his body burned to avoid being strung up like his loser pal Mussolini.