⬆️ @rightardia @enoch_exe_inc @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

>> Israel has had 76 years to settle with the Palestinians

Isn’t that backwards given that:

1. In 1947 it was #Palestinians who spat on the #UN #TwoStateSolution

2. In 1948 Palestinians let neighboring #Arab states to fight a full-scale war #inTheirName with Israel, and LOST

What led to 1967 #SixDayWar, 1973 #YomKippur War, 1982 #LebanonWar, 2006 #SecondLebanonWar, & 2023 Israel-#Hamas War?

#EcstasyAndAmnesia #PalestinianGuilt

@rameshgupta @rightardia @enoch_exe_inc @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog In 1947, they’d just been informed that their revolt against their former Ottoman rulers was for the benefit of outsiders who wished not only to settle on their land, but rule over them as their new Ottoman Empire. So, of course they did the reasonable thing of fighting for their land.

⬆️ @enoch_exe_inc @rightardia @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

>> In 1947, they’d just been informed that THEIR revolt against their former #Ottoman rulers was for the benefit of outsiders

#Palestinians did not revolt. The #Arabs did, and for that they earned their freedom and #ArabianPeninsula. British never promised #Palestine to Arabs. It was dreamed up by them in the #DamascusProtocol (see hashtag).

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⬆️ @enoch_exe_inc @rightardia @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

>> outsiders who wished not only to settle on their land, but rule over them as their new Ottoman Empire

Despite not having fought the Turks, and not having done anything to EARN their freedom, #Palestinians were offered freedom and all the amenities of a full-blown state, including international recognition, but they spat on the #UN #TwoStatePlan

It’s a blatant lie that Israel was invited to “rule over them as their new Ottoman Empire”

@rameshgupta @enoch_exe_inc @rightardia @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

"Despite not having fought the Turks, and not having done anything to EARN their freedom,"

Freedom is supposed to be the default state of humanity. This is real life, not Starship Troopers, where you need to fight in a war to be given your freedom by some parody of a fascist empire.

All these defenses of Israel's conduct over the last decades always rely on a "might makes right" world view.

Other people have morals, try it

⬆️ @MyNewMinuteNewt @enoch_exe_inc @rightardia @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

>> Freedom is supposed to be the default state of humanity. This is real life

"supposed to be" is idealism, not real life.

In real life, we fight to keep our democracy. The default is anarchy. It requires constant struggle to remain free.

For 400 yrs, subjugation by Turks & Brits was not a problem for Palestinians. In 1947 they rejected freedom ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111493882749029059

#Arabism

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⬆️ @MyNewMinuteNewt @enoch_exe_inc @rightardia @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

>> All these defenses of Israel's conduct over the last decades always rely on a "might makes right" world view.

I suggest reading some real history before commenting on Israel's conduct.

Also consider #EcstasyAndAmnesia if you want to understand the #PalestinianPredicament. Just drowning yourself in propaganda without grounding yourself in facts just makes you look silly

@rameshgupta

"For 400 yrs, subjugation by Turks & Brits was not a problem for Palestinians. In 1947 they rejected freedom"

Being allowed to live in your own home is "subjugation", and being forced to leave your home at gun point is "freedom"?

When you say freedom, you aren't really attaching any meaning to the word, are you?

⬆️ @MyNewMinuteNewt has ascended to the #MastodonHallOfShame amid luminaries such as #nus, #oatmeal@kolectiva.social, and
#HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social

Arguing and trolling endlessly without any supporting links.

I don’t #block people anymore. He earns a well-deserved #mute from me.

He can still observe my posts. My fedi-friends can still observe his posts, but I don’t have to, nor do I have the time to.

Bye

@rameshgupta "They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."