Erik MoellerNow Elon Musk is spreading FUD about Signal. If you needed another vote of confidence that Signal (end-to-end encrypted messenger maintained by a nonprofit) is the real deal, there you have it:
Esra'a@eloquence People are recommending Twitter DMs as an alternative in the comments, which I mean .... good luck 🙃
John🥛@alshafei @eloquence Twitter really is the intellectual upsidedown.
Killab33z O.G. 
@eloquence #SignalMessenger is moving along a dark path.
First they integrated a shitcoin behind the back's of their users, which is a major issue regarding #Trust. If you were not aware of this, here is a great video overview by #TheHatedOne
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tJoO2uWrX1M/
And more recently we have more #Censorship lined up via the #SignalFoundation
https://www.city-journal.org/article/signals-katherine-maher-problem
Signal's Terrible MobileCoin Betrayal
Billy SmithRemember that Naomi Wu was ignored by Moxie Marlinspike, when she pointed out potential flaws in their apps in China.
She got vanned over this, as the Chinese security services were actively using the flaws.
As ever, women in technology get ignored even when they are right.
I was not aware of this, but I just read up on it. From what I can tell they did not ignore her, nor did she really point out a flaw specific to Signal. They are just taking the stance that Signal can't protect the entire device it's installed on. The support article https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360055276112-Incognito-Keyboard puts it succinctly: "Signal cannot detect or prevent malware on your device."
Of course I agree it's fair to ask what Signal _should_ do to onboard users in regions with pervasive surveillance.
That may be what they are saying now, but when she was saying this 6 years ago, at a time when Signal was being recommended by Western journalists as being safe for Chinese people to use, and she could prove that it wasn't true...
That was when Marlinspike was ignoring her.
She was arguing from a technical standpoint and an engineering standpoint, that it wasn't safe, but everyone from Signal was ignoring her.
This was also when she was working on Open-Source software, and was being hassled for being a Chinese woman working in technology.
Whether it was racism, sexism, misogyny, or, ignorance, Marlinspike and the team from Signal refused to even consider that it could be a problem.
Fair enough. I think it's easy to get defensive when folks call it a "flaw in their apps" (as you put it) or an "IME vulnerability" (as she put it,) when it's not anything specific to Signal but a general issue of endpoint security affecting every app.
I do agree that orgs like Signal Foundation should look at such security questions more holistically and resist that defensive impulse. I'm seeing more evidence of that kind of holistic view under their current leadership.
Dagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥Signal is fantastic! It works fine! I just don't understand why organisations such as Extinction Rebellion still use, gulp, Telegram for their groups. I just don't. A nice extra is that you can create your own stickerpacks so organisations can use those for extra, custom, attention in messages. I mean ❤
They are super private, too.
And they create a sense of community because if you can spare a little bit of money you can even support them; they are nonprofit. Sigh.
Toran Shaw - M7TOR@torspedia
They asked to follow on their Telegram groups (Netherlands).
Odd, right?
@eloquence I already have it downloaded. Trouble is, no one else I know uses it!
It's in the top 10 messaging apps (literally around #10), but more common in some communities (e.g., journalism, some activist groups).
If you ever have a conversation that seems a bit more sensitive, that might be a good opportunity to nudge others to switch.