David Hull 胡大衛Taiwan will tear down all remaining statues of Chiang Kai-shek in public spaces
Marc Jacobs@HuShuo This is an anti-PRC move? I read the first few ‘grafs before the paywall, and was not convinced.
Although my knowledge of TW politics is shallow.
Struck me that it is more about 2/28.
How do you read the removals?
@trollball Not my wheelhouse either, but my guess is that you are right. There are lot of bad feelings about CKS's authoritarianism, violence, and general shittiness. But I imagine the PRC will see it as an anti-PRC move, regardless of how it is framed in Taiwan.
Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)@HuShuo @trollball I think you're all correct here. I think this is more anti-ROC if we want to label it more than just anti-CKS. There are a lot of people who embrace ROC and CKS at the same time. Also PRC have narratives around they're the successor of ROC, so they don't want Taiwan to get rid of ROC so they can inherit everything from Taiwan via ROC. Putting all together I do think PRC will say this is anti-PRC in the end. "True" Taiwanese won't read it that way though. History is complex.
Gary@godfat @HuShuo @trollball Spot on! That's also why the PRC favour the KMT as they're a Chinese colonial legacy.
@Slingman @HuShuo @trollball Yes exactly. KMT is a mixed bag as well. There are people who think they're Chinese, and they see the downfall of ROC, so they turn to PRC. There are also diehard ROC fans, who think they're the real China, and diehard fans who don't particular care if ROC is China or Taiwan. To them ROC is ROC. ROC fans are also anti-PRC because ROC and PRC just can't coexist
PRC also love and hate ROC because loving ROC can also mean anti-PRC
Fortunately I think diehard are dying
Tâi Siáu-káu 台痟狗 ㄊㄇㄉ 🇳🇫 台灣國@HuShuo
Got a source that I can use? I won't use SCMP.
Got a source that I can use? I won't use SCMP.
@TimMaddog I haven't found anything better. I'll keep my eyes open though.
@HuShuo This has been an ongoing thing since around 2018. Seems it suddenly making news has a political slant with the incoming Lai admin and certain media wanting to portray them as pushing for official independence.
https://newbloommag.net/2024/04/24/cks-statue-removal-reporting/
No, the DPP is Not About to Remove Chiang Kai-shek Statues En Masse | New Bloom Magazine
Some feverish media reporting in English, from pan-Blue-leaning media outlets or journalists, has honed in on the prospect of the 760 remaining statues of Chiang Kai-shek being removed from public…
@Slingman Very helpful article - thank you!
@Slingman @HuShuo Oh no wonder. I was wondering, if this were true, it would be a super big news and the local media might go crazy about it, but I saw none. People were talking about this for decades. There are tons of reasons why it still can't be done, yet. If DPP is really pushing this, honestly they might lose quite some support...