Chu 朱In case anyone else needed a good belly laugh today.
Greg@chu Thank you. I will never ever get sick of Cybertruck schadenfreude. Natural justice is my favourite kind of justice.
Bob LeFridge 
Here's the link for anyone interested. But beware, Futurism chooses to display its text in light grey on a white background which is hard to read.
Betterifyouneil---
Don't wash in the sun and No windshield wiper fluid either?
Auto car wash will void warranty?
Sounds like the vehicle is not made to withstand basic wear and tear. It is not consumer ready.
Everyone get together and file a class action law suit.
@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg
A friend who may need to replace a car soon was just chatting to me why he'd never buy a Tesla.
*copied and pasted from our chat*
the reason is theya re designed like cellphones
you must know how serviceable a cellphone is right?
the body of a tesla is made from a single block of metal and assembled in a very weird way that is basically unservicable
the big car manufacturers have so much experience in designing cars everything can be serviced and replaced on them
and i'm talkign structurally
let alone everything else
another example is teslas use a bus to electronically keep the car together.. i.e. the left turn light communicates through a network to know when to turn on and off.. this saves a lot of wires... but it also means one fault in the network adn the entire car stops working
as opposed to a fault in the left turn signal means the left turn light stops working..
here's a real world example with my old car.. during the july 8th flood my car became a boat
it lost traction and floated accross the coad
y dash board died and all eledctrical systems went down
BUT my engine still kept going and i was able to put it into gear and drive off on the other side
when my dash came back on all the warning lights were on.. but my car still was able to drive
it's over engineered to the max
my cars electronics were never the same but thigns are really isolated and redundant in modern cars
in ev's less so... but i was talking structurally when comparing teslas and normal car manufacturers.. adn normal cars are superior to teslas because of their over engineering
and that crosses over to ev's made by the big 5
but the design philosophy of cellphones is in every aspect of a tesla.. so i would never buy nor recommend one to anyone
also because elon
they are neat as any flagship cellphone is super neat.. but that's it
That's a great perspective. Musky made a drivable iPhone entangled in its own universe. Maybe rose gold will be the next upgrade, cost twice as much, and still lack water resistance.
ErnstGucker@greg @Betterifyouneil @chu @BobLefridge
Agree totally with your friend. That is why I prefer a Volvo EX40 or a Mercedes EQA over a Tesla.
Tesla is nice designed and has a slightly superior range. But it lacks in other areas I consider more apt for me.
Agree totally with your friend. That is why I prefer a Volvo EX40 or a Mercedes EQA over a Tesla.
Tesla is nice designed and has a slightly superior range. But it lacks in other areas I consider more apt for me.
D Ingram@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg Plenty of cars run a data bus for doing things. Windscreen washer control on my car are all digital. Means that the controller can sequence pumping water before wiping, and stop wiping motion if bonnet is up. I bet most modern cars with CAN bus do this for wipers, indicators etc.
Dodgy Theories@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg
Problem is that the other car manufacturers are following Tesla's lead with screens and electronics.
Knud Jahnke@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu
It's not a consumer product.
It's when a deranged billionaire gets no pushback in his company about his "ideas" because he will fire everyone that dares to state such things.
Same with the b.s. statement that Tesla will make its future money with a focus on robotaxis. It will very clearly not. But no-one in the company will dare to say that to his face.
RealGene ☣️@knud @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu
The robotaxi pivot is a face-saving measure to cancel what was going to be an unprofitable economy car, especially given competition from China.
The charade will go on for a year or two, then Musk will claim government regulation and/or insurance of driverless vehicles makes it impossible to bring to market, and it will disappear into the same hole as the Boring Company/hyper loop.
@RealGene @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu
But then Tesla will have zero product perspective. Not looking good.
@knud @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu
Uh, yes.
They'll do the typical cell-phone refresh, like up the battery capacity, or decide that gull-wing doors aren't hip anymore, or make a Miata-like version of the Roadster out of the Model 3. But a coherent product line from the company that brought us the CyberHomer EV? I think not.
Uh, yes.
They'll do the typical cell-phone refresh, like up the battery capacity, or decide that gull-wing doors aren't hip anymore, or make a Miata-like version of the Roadster out of the Model 3. But a coherent product line from the company that brought us the CyberHomer EV? I think not.
Robert Link@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu True believers who were duped into buying this trash will never sue their great libertaritard saviour.
WagesOf@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu it's going to take about 4 years then Tesla will be forced to offer a 100% recall.
This is a defective product that's not fit for purpose. Forced refunds are given for this bullshit all the time.
@WagesOf @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg
can't get your money if the company doesn't exist anymore. Overall sales are down, the other cars are still exploding regularly... the only thing still going up is his ego.
@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg isn't he set to get $56b in bonuses this year?
That company is so fucked up.
@WagesOf @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg
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I'm not privileged enough to understand executive compensation math. It seems to defy all standard rules of mathematics we learn in engineering school. I've studied calculus, fluid dynamics, even some quantum mechanics but none of this applies to executive compensation math.
The ratios don't make sense and clearly my education precludes me from understanding this kind of complex math.
Cadmus@BobLefridge @greg @chu if you use a browser like Opera or Vivaldi, they both have a 'force black background with white text's option in their Accessibility settings. At least on android...
trisweb@BobLefridge @camless @greg @chu while true, I wouldn’t characterize the posted site’s text color as “light gray.” The color contrast is fine, the problem is the narrow and unreadable typeface.
MarjorieR@trisweb @BobLefridge @camless @greg @chu the linked article looks fine to me using Firefox light theme (black text on the same white background as here).
FWIW I find dark theme (white text on black background) almost unreadable and it gives me a headache.
FWIW I find dark theme (white text on black background) almost unreadable and it gives me a headache.
ThisLeeNoble@BobLefridge I like the optimism of saying "don't tell them you took it to a car wash", like they wouldn't just check the camera logs without you knowing.
And it would like to share tracking and cookies with 1282 "technology partners".
phi1997
Matthew
𝐿𝒶𝓃𝒶 "not yet begun to fight"@chu every single thing I ever hear about this enormous clustertruck of a vehicle is worse and funnier than the last.
philbee
Kenneth
Michael Gemar
mauvedeity
Elon Muksis 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 🇪🇺
@chu Musks "wank-panzer" is junk.
JL Roberson@chu (there is no abbreviation for my kind of laughter right now)
Nicklas Johnson 🏳️🌈@chu Makes me wonder what'll happen to them if it rains.
MrAptronym@chu Remember when Musk said the Cybertruck would be able to cross small bodies of water?
Raglan Niall 
@MrAptronym @chu lol!
Technically this is a small body of water crossing the truck and is therfore a completely different case /s
Technically this is a small body of water crossing the truck and is therfore a completely different case /s
@Niall @MrAptronym @chu so the underbody is waterproof. Flip the truck and it'll be carwash-safe, genius!
Wilfried Klaebe@MrAptronym How small?
Chalkwhitehands@chu Because real men don't wash
skry
Forrest@chu “waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat”😆
Fripi (DECT 3034)@chu @pallenberg das ist doch was zum kurz lachen 😅
me_valentijnThe dystopian future is gonna be lit. Gangs of techbros marauding around the suburbs in Cybertrucks, and little kids trying to dodge them while spraying them with garden hoses 😬
Kevin Karhan 
@chu The #CyberTruck has worse #QualityControl and #Craftsmanship than the fucking #Trabant P601 and that thing was a cheap piece of fiber-reinforced phenolic resin on steel tubes with a two-cylinder, two-stroke air-cooled engine that couldn't even bother to have a fuel pump but had to be gravity-fed!
Yet their panel gaps were far less crooked and their cars don't get stained by rain dying up on their surface...
Even the #DeLoream #DMC12 did that #Sheetmetal look better and didn't have the #rust issues...
#Tesla #RustBucket #CyberRust #EpicFail #Wankpanzer #Wanker #WankerCar #SuperUselessVehicle
Tesla Cybertruck: A Tragedy On Four Wheels
kami_kadseas one having owned a Trabant some decades ago I can tell you it's conceptually exactly what one would want when combining indivdualist transit for the whole population and some efficiency in production and maintenance: it didn't waste fuel on mass, was *completely* self-serviceable and could fit the transport needs of a small family. (fuel efficiency was only okay when regarding the simplicity of the engine)
@kami_kadse @chu Shure, also its scarcity forced the #GDR to maintain #PublicTransport networks as a necessary utility...
Also yeah, the Trabant with it's low compression two-stroke just works by virtue of being for the most part 1950s motorcycle tech just with doible the wheels and a plastic cabin and steel tubing around...
In fact, if it wasn't a regular 2+2 car, I'd consider it a #PersonalLightVehicle by virtue of being engineered to simplicity.
https://github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV
mnemonicoverload@kami_kadse
The Trabant is a great example of engineering tradeoffs. Simplicity of engine design dictates that it isn't particularly fuel efficient for the weight of the vehicle buuut if you can't find gasoline you can just run it on kerosine. 😂
@mnemonicoverload @chu @kami_kadse you can't just tun it off anything tho and giving it too good fuel is in fact problematic...
But since its only susceptible part for corrosion in terms of fuel lines, that can be fixed by upgrading the lilely brittle rubber lines for kevlar lines...
Clemens@chu "Car Wash Mode", hilarious.
porrporr@chu there is no carwash in postapocalyptic Musk worlds! ^^
Uno
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@chu there's more 🤣🤣🤣
@chu fu*king wild.
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Paul-Gabriel Wiener@chu I guess they're just expecting that car washes won't exist in a post-apocalyptic world. That's actually reasonable.
Jack Yan (甄爵恩)@chu All front, no substance. Very true to the Elon Musk brand!
adritheonly@chu
So, basically a sculpture of Elon.
Looks and acts like a brute but in reality very sensitive with a lot of care issues.
So, basically a sculpture of Elon.
Looks and acts like a brute but in reality very sensitive with a lot of care issues.
Jako Danar@chu
Fits perfectly with the latest @TheWarOnCars episode https://mastodon.social/@TheWarOnCars/112281238087597662
Fits perfectly with the latest @TheWarOnCars episode https://mastodon.social/@TheWarOnCars/112281238087597662
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