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Andrea Junker 
The fact that far too many people cannot recognize fascism unless it looks exactly like Nazi Germany is very dangerous.
gdtrfb@Strandjunker it's what happens when funding to public education is cut.
DJ Enno
fedithom@Strandjunker a lot of what happens in Germany (and possibly elsewhere) ALREADY looks like Nazi Germany - just around, say, 1928 or so. The trick will be to stop it BEFORE '33 this time around
smintili@fedithom @Strandjunker luckily we have a huge counter movement that’s been going for three weeks straight now and which might tip the scales. 🤞
Craig Groeschel@Strandjunker
Even in the last chapter of Friendly Fascism, after sketching out "the new face of power in America" (the subtitle), the author laid out a very jackbooted vision of how to recognize fascism when it gets here. My thoughts from that are things can go from bad to worse really quickly, and people always prepare to fight the last war.
Not disagreeing with you. I strongly agree, it's here, it's in peoples faces, why can't they see it.
Even in the last chapter of Friendly Fascism, after sketching out "the new face of power in America" (the subtitle), the author laid out a very jackbooted vision of how to recognize fascism when it gets here. My thoughts from that are things can go from bad to worse really quickly, and people always prepare to fight the last war.
Not disagreeing with you. I strongly agree, it's here, it's in peoples faces, why can't they see it.
Cybarbie@Strandjunker I've come to the conclusion calling them Nazis only encourages them. They are a whole kind of evil all on their own. They don't need comparison to something else. They are themselves brute stupid monsters.
floydgump@Strandjunker Or maybe some have warned for years about the dangers of Corporatization/fascism but no one listen or cared because they were doing good financially.
Mike OBrien
CassandraVert@Strandjunker
Especially when people here are actually using swastikas.
Especially when people here are actually using swastikas.
AleggraThe use of swastikas & their absurd obsession with Hitler doesn’t make sense on any level.
What complete ignoramuses are these rednecks that they can’t even come with their own symbols & conquering hero but have to borrow Germany’s dead villain & his particular insignia?
Even the MAGAs worship both Trump & Hitler. It says a lot about our failing educational system.
H4Heights 🇪🇺🇵🇸🇺🇦🇨🇦@Strandjunker Todsy it’s not the Poles, Slaves, Gypsie and Jews who are the untermensch. It’s the poor, disadvantaged and sick who deserve to live a short, hard life and die so that the plutocrats can get ever richer raping and pillaging the planetary estate.
Chris 🤩 Reinbothe@Strandjunker As a German looking across the pond, I can assure you that it looks a lot like 1933.
Draken BlackKnight@Strandjunker
The fact that we've had nazis on the streets over 6 years ago literally rambling on about the Jews should be more than enough evidence that #DiaperDon's worshipers are fascists.
The fact that we've had nazis on the streets over 6 years ago literally rambling on about the Jews should be more than enough evidence that #DiaperDon's worshipers are fascists.
Flyy@Strandjunker
Censorship, breaking up opponent’s political rallies, using the power of the state to spy on and harass political enemies, to the point of attempting to preemptively remove them from the ballot…yes, some people just don’t recognize the fascist police state when it’s staring them in the face.
Censorship, breaking up opponent’s political rallies, using the power of the state to spy on and harass political enemies, to the point of attempting to preemptively remove them from the ballot…yes, some people just don’t recognize the fascist police state when it’s staring them in the face.
Seán Fenian@Strandjunker What's worse is that so many people see it, recognize it, and think it's a great idea.
Benjamin Hendricks
xs4me2True indeed, and I keep wondering why...
DevBird@Strandjunker As a German in the current time I have to say, even then the most people wouldn't recognize it...
@Strandjunker I agree.
Ish@Strandjunker I know folks who show their children Jojo Rabbit for 'good lessons' and then vote for folks who aspire extreme authoritarianism.
Heavy irony.
@Strandjunker for the most part I’d argue that they know but they high five being a fascist because people overwhelmingly don’t have principle.
Alexander KarnThere is also willful ignorance and deliberate deflection. #protectdemocracy
Jamie BoothOr even when it does...
@Strandjunker ...not that they know or care what Nazi Germany actually looked like to Good Germans™...which very much goes to your point.
Roo_44@Strandjunker
Even more disturbing, how many wants it to looks exactly like Nazi Germany.
Even more disturbing, how many wants it to looks exactly like Nazi Germany.
James@Strandjunker No , the real worry is they want it to look like Nazi Germany
mtillman@Strandjunker I think people on mastodon need to realize that these people both recognize and want it.
withoutclass@Strandjunker Umberto Eco's article on the subject should be mandatory teaching
Concerned Citizen@Strandjunker They do recognize fascism. Not a bug, a feature.
@Strandjunker Maybe because they kept seeing all those war movies, but totalitarianism as many faces. My favorite source for the subject are testimonials based on a book written by Ignacio Martin Baro titled 'Psicologia Social desde Centro America' (Social Psychology from Central America). In many ways it is like what happened eighty years ago, but the participants and motives are very different. The sad thing is that the effects are still felt today.
🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦Look at how the American right wing has handled news clips of polar bears drowning as ice has melted.
The wouldn't recognize fascism if Trump showed up in Nazi uniform.
TAI@Strandjunker I think theres a major failure to go all around. The fear, ignorance or arrogance to discuss the reasons behind it. I find you can't even play devil's advocate in order to dissect it all. reason has been replaced by stubborn insistence to adopt someone else's view. I don;'t think many feels it's fascism as much as a sledgehammer used to destroy what doesn't serve a purpose for them anymore. A desire for something else to emerge not so fraudulent as what exists now. now rage away.
Тукс добрий@Strandjunker I think it is failure of
the education system. We all told that Fascism is Hitler,Swastika,etc,etc. but we are hardly told what is the definition of Fascism is.
In fact I also don't know exactly what that definition of Fascism is: I consider all totalitarian regimes and their values are Fascism, and people who root for them are facists but I am sure that this isn't 100% correct.
havoc@Strandjunker you have to see everyone in Hugo Boss outfits before there is a response.
Frank Bennett 🇯🇵@Strandjunker As if the Third Reich were primarily a fashion crime.
@Strandjunker Authoritarianism is the more descriptive ism.
ideaPDish@Strandjunker
What??
To me it looks mousilini’s brown shirted italy.
I spell cheked mousilini and it said, no replacement found
Benjamin Schröter@Strandjunker @FabianLaasch many can't recognize it even if it looks like Nazi German in Germany and the Nazis are already planning who to get rid of.
Marcus Jenkins@Strandjunker Also when fascism *does* look almost exactly like Nazis there are plenty who will shy away from calling it out.
Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪@Strandjunker We’ve been hammered with the idea that nazism was such a unique kind of evil that we have believed it, and everything around it was sucked into the black hole: fascism but also genocide. Fascism exists elsewhere and is thriving, genocide is perpetrated by the descendants of those who suffered from it.
Léonard Bertos 🫏@Strandjunker as artists we should get rid of Hugo Boss
eena meena me@Strandjunker Germany before the Nazis took power wasn't a great place for Jewish people. It was, in fact, so awful that the French invented a word for it: racisme.
so now that we have a word for the dehumanisation campaigns of minorities that precedes full blown death camp fascism, we can recognise it earlier, right? right??
Thomas Ekman Jorgensen@Strandjunker I have worked a bit with fascism as a historian, and I think that it needs to requirements: 1) systematic use of political violence, 2) an urge to invade Albania (or equivalent).
I don't see much of that around (Trump might get close), but I see a lot of other bad things, and a lot of things that I just don't agree with.
Token Sane Person@Strandjunker
Ahh, but Donald #Trump *can* recognise #fascists, as well as #Marxists. And he's gonna lock 'em all up. So that's OK then.
Ahh, but Donald #Trump *can* recognise #fascists, as well as #Marxists. And he's gonna lock 'em all up. So that's OK then.
VefhtagnIn France the grandchild of the founders of the French Nazi party (founded by members of the S.S the FN becomed RN)
Say that yes, concentration camp as reveal by the German press as part of the German Nazi party (Afd) project was also the project of the candidate that she support (Zemmour... Another kind of fascist) ...
It not even cause a riddle on the media landscape...
Nate Barham@Strandjunker @matt Also makes you wonder what it was about Nazi Germany that causes it to cross the line for these people and why other manifestations of fascism don’t seem to qualify for them.
Callisto@Strandjunker The fact that far too many people don't realize what Nazi Germany looked like to white abled cishet non-Jewish people who lived there, is very dangerous.
G. Allen Morris III@Strandjunker That is how I felt during George W. Bush's Presidency. But, yes.
Tavian C. L.@Strandjunker That is concerning. Right next to it is that some don't bat an eye if it looks the part, either. Then, there are way too many followers of the idea that this type of government is good for people.