I saw them at the flex in Vienna, Austria, sometime in 2002. They were there with Bright Eyes and what I remember most about that concert is that there were 2 Germans there, dancing quite wildly, bumping into everyone and complaining loudly that no one else was dancing along. Well, they clearly had not done their homework on Viennese culture. Eventually someone punched one of them, he went down and Bright Eyes interrupted the show to have him carried outside while the audience applauded...