What does anti-trans bias in media look like?

It looks like an article about complaints over the mere existence of a transgender character in a TV show that came from less than 0.0001895% of the show’s viewers, needlessly amplifying the bigotry of an infinitesimal number of complainers and granting them unwarranted attention.

Worsened by a headline that treats the number of complaints as significant and worded as though they hold some validity.

@amaditalks Am I dumb for not having realized Rose was trans? Did they mention that at some point and I just missed it?

Anyway, I bet Doctor Who gets 100 complaints about *something* every week - Who fans complain a lot! So yeah, weird they don't report all the other complaints.

@cherold @amaditalks
There was a brief scene where some bigoted teenagers catcall her, and Donna says she's calling their mothers.

But no, it wasn't a big deal... because it isn't a big deal. Rose is awesome and if people can't deal with it, they're pathetic.

@realtegan @cherold @amaditalks

I thought the catcalls were due to her personality. After all, she was supposed to be otherwordly, among many other things.

The biggest clues were in the getting-past-doctordonna -scene, but even those you could brush off, particularly if you're in your teens or doing something else while watching.

@cherold it was a part of Rose’s motivation for saving mom, from what I’ve been told. I have not yet seen the specials so I can’t say for sure. I am not a viewer yet, everything I know about the show is via osmosis from my friends and from using Tumblr.

@cherold They said something during the Big Climax but my friends' son was talking at the same time so I couldn't hear it properly and thought until this thread she was coming out as enby or something. I've been meaning to re-watch without the additional soundtrack. :-)

@amaditalks

@cherold @amaditalks The first thing I noticed when watching was the local kids deadnaming her (Jason = healer, so even that was relevant), but that might have been in hindsight after Donna’s mum was stressing out about what if she used the wrong name or pronoun.

@carey @amaditalks Oh, *that's* what Donna's mom was talking about!

Honestly, I don't think the deadnaming registered for me because when I grew referring to people as opposite of whatever sex/gender they were was very popular among boys - I knew a kid named George and people were always calling him Georgie Girl because of the song. So unless I was already thinking Rose was trans, that wouldn't have moved the needle.

@amaditalks
Aww, geez! They are most likely those not regularly watching Doctor Who anyway. And OH MY GOODNESS! Just think of how they would react to pan-sexual Capt. Jack Harkness! 😂😂😂
Silly people! It does not affect them - in any dingdang way, but they've just got to cry about it!

@amaditalks

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@TheManyVoices @amaditalks

There are many reasons to not use hashtags, particularly on topics that might bring in the haters.

Leave the decision to use hashtags for the OP :)

@TheManyVoices do you not realize that these kinds of replies are spam?

@laura_fae

I've been here awhile (under another account before this one), and I do know how things are. Mastodon works differently than Xitter.

Again, there is NO ALGORITHM.

There is no algorithm because there are NO ADS.

What exactly is supposedly being sold here with "spam"?

The many hashtags I posted were so that #DoctorWhoFans could find the post I was replying to, regardless of which one they were following.

I think you're probably confused.

@TheManyVoices you don't realize that there are people who just don't fucking care if there's an algorithm because they care about stuff being spread organically instead.

this is how "xitter" used to work as well and it was fine, there wasn't always an algorithm

you being obnoxious at them isn't helping. at all. it's just annoying. you're giving advice that isn't wanted.

and that doesn't even touch the fact that your "btw let me explain to you how the fediverse works" is now showing up under the hashtag, not the original post, and noone is going to think "woah that sounds cool I'm gonna click this reply that is clearly unsolicited advice to see what the original post was"

the fediverse isn't Twitter. most people here know that.

you don't need to tell them. they know. there's a decent chance they are here precisely because it isn't like Twitter and they aren't looking for a 1:1 replacement. they aren't looking for explanations on how to use this platform "right" in your eyes

@laura_fae
I certainly don't feel like *I* am the one being "obnoxious" here. (Ahem) The post was in regard to Doctor Who, and I know a lot of fans on here would be interested. Hashtagging is no more "obnoxious" than RT-ing to share it. On Mastodon, the use of hashtags to highlight topics IS "organic."

If the OP doesn't want me to share, they have the option of saying so themselves. They can ask me to delete my reply-- and they haven't.

Assuming someone else's opinion for them is "obnoxious."

@amaditalks All of the complainers should be sent to a gulag.

@mos_8502

and that's going to change minds how?

where bigotry exists it is better combated by empathy, compassion and dialogue. Otherwise the shunned double down.

there are no shortcuts to persuasion, and some people will never shift their thinking. But this reflexive aggression and urge to punish is counterproductive.

@amaditalks

@amaditalks There’s always someone complaining about something that isn’t an issue…

(Not saying it’s a non issue. All hate is, and this might be only, but there’s plenty more out there. Saying it is nothing they should cave in for.)

@amaditalks It wasn't even the most complained about BBC show in the fortnightly period they report on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaint-service-reports
Fortnightly complaints reports | Contact the BBC

@amaditalks @oya

“Over 100? Wow!”
If I can—reasonably—hand write “fuck off” postcards to everyone in a weekend, it probably isn’t a huge deal

@amaditalks
1- if you don’t like it Don’t watch. 2- One of the James Bond movies had a trans person, was there an uproar when that movie premiered?
@Metric I’m not sure I recall the trans person in a Bond film, but there were probably grumblings.
@amaditalks @Metric Caroline Cossey in 1981 (but a) as an extra and b) not known to be trans by audiences so no grumblings until, alas, she was outed by the _News of the World_ later that year).
@amaditalks how the hell can having a transgender character in *any* work of fiction be 'inappropriate'?

@amaditalks "heads up for any bigots that didn't watch doctor who, we can make an issue out of this"

that number really comes off like they're just painting a bullseye

@heatherhorns_lite @amaditalks Agreed. The worst part of silly, irresponsible media presentation like this is that, in addition to amplifying the petty grievance of a vanishingly small few, it sounds a call-to-action for other malcontented bigots who may otherwise have missed out on an opportunity to be “offended” by the existence of people the perceive as different from themselves.
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Attached: 2 images Apparently the BBC (UK) has had 144 complaints about a recent episode of #DoctorWho because it contained an openly #trans character. I'm going to make a complaint to the BBC that there weren't enough #transgender characters in Doctor Who. I would love if 144 other people did the same thing. Here's the link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint (For your easy reference: "The Star Beast" aired on 25/11/2023, BBC One, and the trans character is called Rose.) Reply when you've done it, so we can count us all. When we get to 145, everyone... gets a free BLÅHAJ? 🦈 Edit: 2 days later, mission successful: 159 complaints/comments submitted, and still climbing! A *huge* thank you everyone - stay tuned for hopefully some freedom of information requests!

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@amaditalks @iris Which transgender character did they take issue with? I see two in that pic.
@fizzixrat @iris I haven’t thought of the Doctor as trans, being an alien with two hearts (3?) and not a human.
@amaditalks @fizzixrat Sure but since when have we been exclusionist on the basis of original body composition? That seems counter to our cause.

OTOH I’m not sure the Doctor would identify as such. Transition implies there was some mismatch to address, and maybe I’m out of the loop (I’m not caught up!!), but it isn’t clear to me that the Doctor experienced that. They may be genderfluid, bigender, or some other descriptor reflecting serial embodiment as cis-monogender without necessarily being trans.
@amaditalks Alternative headline: 100 Bigots Pressed the Send Button
@amaditalks It was probably just the same bigot complaining 100 times.
@amaditalks I feel like I've read many stories about British TV shows getting "dozens" of complaints. The British love to complain but we need to know how many complaints is a lot relative to the mean number of complaints about anything. I definitely feel like someone is looking at the complaints metrics and cherry picking click bait stories.
@amaditalks I get more than 100 complaints when I don't put alt text on a poop joke.
@amaditalks
A person is "inappropriate" for having an identity? No.

@amaditalks

It wasn't even exactly prominent.

As a person who hadn't heard of Finney before, I missed most of the references. The ending was enough that I checked her wikiarticle, but if I were in the real target audience (what, from 7 to 13?) I probably wouldn't have bothered.

@amaditalks Don’t let them be a one-time character.
@amaditalks funny because that plot point was basically in motion for like, 2 minutes at most. The biggest complaint I have about Rose is that she's barely a character. All I know about her is that she's trans and she makes toys for her business. That's literally all. Would have been nice if she was fleshed out more since she was kinda important but considering how many plot beats this episode had to cover, I don't blame the writers here.
@amaditalks Getting upset over a trans person literally existing within a story is ludicrous
@engravecavedave only to normal people. But bigots specialize in ludicrous.
@amaditalks Probably gets more clicks than 'A few bigots/right wing trolls complained that there is a transgender character on Doctor Who'... Although if they were naming in the article they might get a lot of clicks to see who has shown their true colours!

@amaditalks
I watched that episode and thought that it was a happy coincidence that Donna's exit including the her saying the the word "binary" upon the merger with the Doctor, to have the escape clause that Donna and her daughter was able to avoid certain death because her non-binary daughter. Donna's love grew her capability to hold on the doctor's experiences.

It was a very clever written episode, and those that couldn't get past their own bigotry are the problem, not the trans character

@amaditalks It's just all so stupid. The fictional character was also a woman last time around. The BBC just needs to realize that a few of their cave dwelling fans discovered Who when they were fourteen and for deeply strange reasons haven't grown since.

How many stories went without space so that 100 bigots could have their 5 minutes?

@amaditalks Why, why, that’s over eight dozen!
If you had four flats of eggs, you could probably throw one at each person who complained.
@amaditalks The biggest issue with Dr Who is that Tennants is still there, give some spotlight to other doctors, why is it always him?
There's no need to come up with fake, stupid non existing issues. A transgender character is not a problem.
@raccoon this was a series of special episodes in the lead up to the new Doctor played by Ncuti Gatwa. Tennant isn’t staying in the role.
@amaditalks Yeah, but why did he have to appear in the first place? Why not any other doctor?
It's always him.
@raccoon probably because none of the others wanted to do it. Everyone else moves on from the role and they don’t want to revisit it. He, conversely, loves it. And the fans love him and they really love him and Catherine Tate together.
@amaditalks I guess it's just me then, I really got tired of him on the show.

@amaditalks
It is deliberate hate sponsoring.

100 insignificant shitheads get their volume increased for clicks.

What I take away is the best they could do was 100. It shows how small the shithead population really is and how disproportionate their amplification.

My trans friends & trans family will always have my love and support. I will try to remain bigger & louder than 100 shitheads.

Keep being you and know you are accepted by so many of us, even though some of us remain too quiet.

@amaditalks Jay Penske son of a billionaire has bought up most of the entertainment media including Deadline and pushes his agenda through that. Look the guy up. Fairly scary

@amaditalks

I joined a coordinated movement to complain to the BBC about insufficient trans representation on Dr Who. I think we've already outnumbered the haters.

@amaditalks
I'll bet they had to watch the entire episode to declare that it was inappropriate! Maybe even record it and watch it a 2nd time to be "SURE."