I hate derailleurs very much.

For my own bikes, I've always used fixed gear bikes or three speed sturmey-archer hubs. For the family cargo bikes, NuVinci/Enviolo hubs (with twist shifters).

My Yuba Kombi has a 9-speed cassette/derailleur with trigger shifter. I love the shifter, but hate the derailleur.

So I'm wondering if I just get another #Enviolo (expensive, heavy, twist shifter) or try out a Shimano #Alfine 8 (cheaper, lighter, trigger shifter)? Complicating factor being the BBS02 motor.

I do have a gear shift sensor for the motor that briefly turns off motor power when I shift. I've heard mixed reviews about the #Alfine 8 - people saying they've ridden it thousands of km with #bafang mid-drive motors, others saying they killed it. But one of the cargo bikes I bought has a bafang mid-drive (#BBSHD, so more power/torque than the #BBS02) and a dead #Enviolo hub (N330, so not the burlier Enviolo Heavy Duty hub that I'd likely get).

Curious to hear from anyone who uses both hubs.

@Andres4NY My other bikes before the GSD were shimano hubs. I love them. 7 or 8 gear so I don’t think they are the affine but I would assume that’s even better.

@rachael There's both 8 speed Alfine and Nexus. I think Nexus has a twist shifter while Alfine's is trigger.

How often did you have to adjust/service the hub and cables? Like, the biggest selling point for Enviolo is that you just don't have to ever touch it, other than initial tightening of stretched cables. No oil, no misaligned/loose shifter cable, etc. I'm hoping other than a yearly oil change, the Alfine is similar.

@Andres4NY I occasionally had to adjust the cable (it has to be set so this indicator in the hub is on gear 4) but have never had either hub serviced in any way beyond that (eg opening the hub up to clean and re-pack).