hamish campbellNov 16, 2023
#NGIForum23 The is no way to edit or remove questions. The is no way to talk to anyone... A normal #NGI "trust" #4opens fail, except this time it is a hardcoded due to the use of this CMS for the event. Before this we used #FOSS with #BBB which worked well, then #dotcons silos that worked after a fight each time to get chat turned on, now we are here #blocking, every #EU tech event has pushed this "control" mess over the public. What are you guys in "control" going to do to stop this.
Show threadGerardo LisboaNov 16, 2023

@hamishcampbell

Which #cms is #ngiForum23 using now?
Is it closed source?

Show threadhamish campbell
@gvlx is this https://particify.de/en/ hard to find licencing info and #4opens process... what can you find :)
Particify – Interactive education

Particify is the tool for interactive teaching and training. Get real feedback from your audience with live polls and anonymous Q&A.

Particify
Nov 16, 2023 at 11:24amWeb
Show threadRobert Riemann 🇪🇺Nov 17, 2023

@hamishcampbell @gvlx

Particify is the SaaS version of ARSnova FOSS https://gitlab.com/particify/dev/foss/ARSnova . Most people would use #slido instead.

Particify / Software Development / FOSS / ARSnova · GitLab

GitLab.com

GitLab
Show threadhamish campbellNov 17, 2023
@rriemann @gvlx am looking at it now and trying to find out if it has any way from the public to chat to each other or to the organizers on the streaming video or inside the CMS have not found anything yet, do you know if it has this function?
Show threadhamish campbellNov 17, 2023

@rriemann @gvlx

Had a look thought the #Particify site, and it seems to be only a ONE-WAY tool, with controlled/shaped feedback. Which is why whoever organized #NGIForum23 used it. This is not "people to people" and it's not "trust". How can we go about putting in an official complaint to #NGI and their sponsors about this mess they keep pushing #EU

Show threadRobert Riemann 🇪🇺Nov 17, 2023

@hamishcampbell @gvlx

I think the argument that NGI used particify because it omits a feature is a long stretch.

I would also recommend to take a step back and check if NGI amongst all EU organisations/projects is the one deserving your attention the most. #chatcontrol #eidas #twittermigration There is so much more things to care about with a more lasting effect than a one off event.

Show threadhamish campbellNov 17, 2023
This is the 4th event and it's getting worse each time. it is time to act as small issues have large underlining issues. #actavisam
Show threadhamish campbellNov 19, 2023

@rriemann @gvlx

OK, we are missing communication here:

The first #EU #AP Fediverse event was not organized by the guys am point and complaining about, it was organized by us the libertarian cats' https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/webinar-with-the-european-commission-and-ap-community/1507/15

This was a productive #4opens gold standard event.

This shapes the current #EU #openweb #ActivityPub polices.

The people organizing the current events are a pale shadow of this, we need to do MUCH better #KISS

Webinar with the European Commission and AP Community

Recently the NGI0 consortium reached out to relay a request from the European Commission to organize a Webinar with the ActivityPub community to discuss the protocols and how they could become a standard for EU institutions to use, with the idea of removing some dependency on centralized networks and the companies promoting them. This would be a maximum of 2 hours, and we certainly could use the opportunity to use the new live feature of <span class="hashtag-icon-placeholder"></span>Software > PeerTube</span> to host the webinar. I would li...

SocialHub
Show threadhamish campbellNov 19, 2023

@rriemann @gvlx

Important not to feed this mess https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/help-make-the-european-commission-euvoice-and-euvideo-pilot-a-success/2518/2?u=hamishcampbell

We need composting :)

Help make the European Commission EUVoice and EUVideo pilot a success

The is a poison in the writing, sickness in the attitude, going down this #NGO path is damaging. Am all for outreaching the technology and MOST IMPORTANTLY the #openweb culture of the #fediverse to the #EU but please can we get off our knees and lift our heads and voices… @aschrijver try and hear the diversity and disunity, the “cats” and try not to speak for us, I understand this is hard for you, we have talked about this a number of times in the past each time you ignore the points/process...

SocialHub
Show threadhamish campbellNov 19, 2023

@rriemann @gvlx

Then let's ask why are they reluctant to let people talk to each other at #NGI top-down events.

Horizontal vs Vertical is a basic question of are they #fitforpurpuse #openweb

internet of humans needs people being able to talk to people

#KISS #trust