To understand why Andreessen's "Techno-Optimist" piece is so wretched, go to the "Enemies" list and gape at the things he and his bros want to get rid of.

They include: “Sustainable Development Goals”, “social responsibility”, “trust and safety”, and (among others) “tech ethics”.

Remember, those are what the tech bros despise...

@delong Wait, you're one of the people they cited approvingly...
@dangillmor link please?
@fabiocosta0305 I don't want to promote it.
@dangillmor found it... I don't think I'll be able to read everything without a vomit bag. They aren't techno-optimist, they are techno-feudalism... Everything on this stinks like they'll left everything on this earth when they turn this on a big toxic wasteland
@dangillmor They all want to destroy Society because they cannot control it. There is no wisdom in this way of thinking. My solace is that they are all living in a bubble with little to no understanding of what it means to be human. Andreessen will never be anything more than another billionaire asshole. Let them all trade their tech playing cards.
@dangillmor He sure hasn’t learned how to communicate succinctly. There might be some good points in there, but if there were they were buried in so much nonsense I couldn’t see them.
@dangillmor. And/or look at the prominent place of #fascist #Marinetti in the piece. And/or daring to include #CarrieFisher as someone who would give any of these people the time of day. And/or the invocation of #AndyWarhol.
@dangillmor I wrote about this and the technological logically fallacy of his arguments at length, if you're interested. https://robertvanwey.substack.com/p/marc-andreessen-makes-a-strong-argument
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@dangillmor It's the most cynical, depressing thing I've seen come out of VC tech for a long time, and there's a very, very high bar for that. It's worse than wretched. He talks about wanting to make supermen and being anti-inclusion. There's a really nasty picture being drawn.
@ben @dangillmor let's not mince words: it's fascism wrapped up in technobabble.

@ben @dangillmor (I should add I am the kind of person who doesn't use the word lightly; Robert Paxton's definition is my rule of thumb:

> Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.

It's what passes for fascist intellectualism.)

@dangillmor ...But not half as much as they despise everyone who isn't a fellow techbro.
@dangillmor hmm, looks like the Solano county project and crypto bets aren’t going well for F20z dude.

@dangillmor I didn't make it that far through the manifesto. Mind you, I have no problem digging through the Federal Register to find obscure regs, and that's an arcane tome that will drive mad anyone who spends too long in its depths.

But that techbro manifesto was just too much useless irrelevant BS even by those standards.

@dangillmor the whole thing addresses people whose active vocabulary includes grindset. They may be naive / stupid enough to take all the statements in the piece at face value. Andreesen probably is not so naive, which makes it even more despicable.
@dangillmor This manifesto has been very helpful to me in illuminating what the "tech bro" stereotype actually entails, because luckily I know very few such people personally.

@dangillmor It's completely f**king insane & evil. And remember, the entire thing is based on the tech-bro billionaire conviction that they are what they are due to merit. They believe they're already supermen - otherwise they wouldn't be billionaires, now would they?

Also, I absolutely guarantee that some of the people on his "patron saints" list would punch his face clear off his grinning skull for implying that they're aligned with this horror show.

@dangillmor Also-also, it's super-interesting that these "I'm the smartest person on the planet" idiots seemingly don't know that if you have to start your argument with a clear straw man, then maybe your argument isn't all that good.

Also-also-also, yes, we built this world with technology. We also built it with f**king murder & genocide. Not everything we did to get here is good in and of itself.

You have to shit to survive; that doesn't make shitting the meaning of life.

What a dumbass.

@dangillmor We are the apex predator; the lightning works for us’ - just mind boggling narcissism. He is working for nothing but the enrichment of himself.
@dangillmor destroy all tech bros .
They have outed themselves as monsters. And I’m not taking Frankenstein or Dracula or even the wolf man monsters :
They are Kaiju

@dangillmor

> Our enemy is corruption, regulatory capture, monopolies, cartels.

So they're their own enemy?

This is a good manifesto, but not for what they intended it. Instead it's all the reasons why we need to get rid of tech bros and the death cult of infinite growth.

@dangillmor so many 'believe' statements in this piece. Surprising lack of evidence for a system that's based around tech (and the implicit logic)

I can believe that tomorrow I'll wake up a lottery winner but it doesn't mean it's true.

I feel like I attempted to read the intoxicated ramblings of someone who thinks they're god's gift to mankind.

@dangillmor and lest even that be lost in a "maybe there's some real legit criticism of those progressive goals in there", here's the redacted bullshit-free version https://bengrosser.com/files/Techno-Optimist-Manifesto-Andreessen-redacted-by-Grosser.pdf

@dangillmor

In a poorer man this raving would be considered another Time Cube.

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