Super casual conversation about Eugenics

https://awful.systems/post/269462

Super casual conversation about Eugenics - awful.systems

Should really be doing screen shots or an archive link so we’re not driving traffic to reddit.

That said, fucking wot?

Perfect, now it will be safe from getting scrubbed next time SVSS realizes he’s let the mask slip.
Probably need to get that archive refreshed, there’s fresh terrible replies
that there are! updated
“Thanks.”
yeah sorry I should probably have included a warning

Best way to do it would be adding some genetic fitness signalling to internet dating.

Yeah, I may look like a serial killer and my political views would make Hitler blush, but check out my genes, baby!

Imagining a very literal version of The Selfish Gene where I’m rejected when asking someone out only because my partner doesn’t want her child to enjoy cilantro because she thinks it tastes like soap and also thinks rolling your tongue is gross.
I’m just going to pretend that this thread was instead about IV breeding Pokemon. I don’t need to see a casual expression of some of humanity’s worst ideas on Reddit.
Do not give SSC a water stone.
they will not stop until everything organic can be machine readable

“How dare you call us eugenicists!”

Is that top reply from Scott? And is he really saying that what is holding eugenics back for now is ethical concerns?

Well I certainly hope ethical concerns are holding back eugenics. Possibly even among the main things doing so.
I think when we say ‘held back by ethical concerns’ and he says ‘held back by ethical concerns’ it means different things.
Who is Scott and what is slatestarcodex??

“congratulations”, you’ve found the people who are pushing its rise, the ideologues penning the bigthonks underpinning the bad takes

it is very much a thing, unfortunately

They should be sent back to Nuremberg in 1945.
yeah, you know those guys who talk about the prospect of artificial intelligence taking over and destroying humanity? this is them, this sub sneerclub is about them, and this is the underbelly of their wonderful beliefs
I see. I landed here through sheer coincidence through my front page. Almost like back on reddit. I might look more into this community.

i warn you, it’s a rabbit hole.

enjoy this article for some of the sillier stuff (all referenced in detail)

Roko's basilisk

Roko's basilisk is a fanciful thought experiment about the imagined risks involved in developing artificial intelligence (AI). The idea is that an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future might retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence, including those who merely knew about the possible development of such a being. It is named after English mathematician Roko Mijic, the member of the rationalist community LessWrong who first publicly described it, though he did not originate the underlying ideas. The "basilisk" is by analogy to the mind-breaking images in David Langford's short story BLIT.

RationalWiki
I see. I already went down the r/grimezs rabbit hole a bit when I was still on reddit. They are ex-Grimes fans who dig up all the bullshit, bad takes and hidden fascism of Elon and Grimes, who made a new sub because they were censored on the official sub. Grimes doesn’t like that the sub exists and has sent multiple disruptors there to try and silence the sub. But it’s not only about Grimes and Elon but also about all the horrible silicon valley fascists they are friends with and stuff. This communty seems like an extension of that.
it actually started as r/sneerclub on reddit, which branched off from r/badphilosophy because so much Yudkowsky badphil was being posted there.
Oh ok. Don’t know if I heard about that guy before. I might have a lot to read up on.
A good starter article is this one which is in the sidebar of the sub.
A Code Red Warning about TESCREALism

This is what happens when you spend two years unmasking a well-funded Silicon Valley “apocalypse cult.”

Truthdig
Is “polygenic” a real word or is a SSC shibboleth?
It’s a real term, meaning “influenced by multiple genes”, but who knows what weird baggage SSC have around it.

Indeed, super casual. Disturbingly so.

“2 of the triplets can’t read at grade level; the plus 5 IQ option didn’t deliver enough utils in my Monte Carlo simulation.”

Uggggghhhhhhhhhhhh

How many rounds of IVF is the poor pregnant partner, inevitably a cis woman, meant to do? Isn’t IVF infamously fucking gruelling, requiring injections and ending in miscarriages? Is her husband going to make her feel like shit for refusing to make being pregnant her full time job? A massive amount of reproductive labour is just being taken for granted here.

And if these EAers refuse, the reproductive labour just gets passed on to other women. Grimes didn’t want to have another kid with Elon (aren’t they nonbinary? I’m sure it might have caused them dysphoria) so Elon persuaded one of his fucking employees into doing IVF and being their surrogate because it’s important for smart people to have kids. (Source)

Elon Musk fathered twins with one of his executives last year – report

Musk’s nine children include pair born to Shivon Zilis, who works at his artificial intelligence company Neuralink

The Guardian