I've mentioned this but I'm gonna make a real post.
If you are setting up Windows 11, select "English (World)" as your language (English Europe also works), and you will have NONE of the third party bloatware installed.
No Candy Crush, no Netflix, just the first party apps
Please do share this info with anyone who may be setting up Windows soon
https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/windows-ooberegion-bloatware.html
@Siph @beebles they removed bloatwares out of the Enterprise on Windows 11?
Just a quick reference: back to the Windows 10 era they still put full bloatware to the Enterprise version just like the consumer editions (Home, Pro) except LTSC ones.
Frankly speaking it was Pro plus business management features.
@chu I have no idea, I'd assume licensing agreements per country.
I've just used this in the past and I thought it'd be useful for others to know
thanks for sharing!
@beebles oh hell yeah
Iβm going to remember this for my next Windows install, which hopefully will just be a very sad VM I use only for gaming
@beebles also if you want to still use the #Govware that is #Windows11 despite good #Linux like @ubuntu existing, feel free to give #Microsoft the finger and circumvent their #MicrosoftAccount requirement...
with this default login:
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/default.logins.list.tsv#L10
If you choose #Germany as location and #English as languague you'll even have less bs.
@toby not really.
I migrate #TechIlliterates all the time to #UbuntuLTS /
@ubuntu because at the end of the day, NO #TechIlliterate cares about what OS / Distro / ... they use.
All they want is being able to #consoom social media, maybe write and print a letter and check their eMails.
They don't care if they have #Windows, #Ubuntu, @bunsenlabs or #PorteusKiosk at their disposal, as long as they can click and type and get shit done...
@Theholypumpkin @toby I mean it really depends on one's use-case:
For a lot of people, the @Raspberry_Pi #Pi400 Kit is basically all they need to do their computing needs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI
Personally I just tend to install @ubuntu / #UbuntuLTS on most systems as it's a #64bit distro (#RaspberryPiOS is only available for #ARM, #ARM64 & #i386) and comes with support for basically everything anyone ever asked for - including #Steam.
@bunsenlabs is my go-to distro to use on #lowend systems.
@Theholypumpkin @toby @bunsenlabs
Also one major "can't use" for me - regardless of #ChipShortages and #Scalpers - is the lack of a convenient #LUKS #Encryption setup in both #RaspberryPiOS and @ubuntu / #Ubuntu for @Raspberry_Pi / #RaspberryPi.
Not gonna argue the lack of @tails or official @torproject #TorBrowser but to make #FullDiskEncryption viable and useable, it just can't be restricted to external media or having to manually fiddle around, cuz that's a pain in the rear.
@Theholypumpkin @toby @bunsenlabs @ubuntu @Raspberry_Pi @tails @torproject
But that's just me wanting to have a consistent technology stack across work and home and being able to just "install & forget" with automatic updates on for the support lifecycle of the distro.
Doesn't mean other options are invalid tho, and I'd rather be forced to use my #Pi0W on #bash / #CLI for the rest of my life than ever having to see or use #Windows ever again!
@kkarhan @toby @bunsenlabs @ubuntu @[email protected] @tails @torproject bash is always fine. Despite being an embedded systems developer intern, I never used a Raspberry Pi for an embedded project. I just used them as cheap servers.
I consider an OS in embedded to be a nuisance. I perfer bare-metal.
@kkarhan @toby @[email protected] @ubuntu @bunsenlabs I said Pi 3B+, not Pi 4/Pi 400.
The Pi 4 family are computing beast in a SBC form factor.
I considered running a minecraft Server inside a docker container with reasonable performance metric.
As it's mostly single threaded Java Code.
What really hinders the Pi4 imao is I/O speed. To run the aforementioned minecraft server I connected save the world data on an connected USB to SATA SSD).
@toby @ubuntu @bunsenlabs I mean that's your experience.
I just think that for the average user, it doesn't matter how and in what form they get their Software.
@kkarhan @ubuntu @bunsenlabs it does when snaps randomly just... casually stop opening? like what happened to me, after running a 20 minute system update that really shouldn't have a. taken that long and b. been a part of the boot process...?
isn't linux renowned for being able to update while you use it?
@toby @kkarhan
β οΈ DANGER β οΈ heated #Linux π§ discussions below π. Proceed with caution.
I wonder where the #ArchLinux crew is.
Didn't found a "I use Arch btw" yet π
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@toby @kkarhan
For me personally it's #Fedora38 #KDE dualbooted with #Debian KDE.
Servers run Raspberry Pi OS or Fedora 38 (Server).
Fedora 38 Server on #RaspberryPi can not recommend, it a pain to set up and breaks easily.
At work it's punishment with #windows10 using WSL Ubuntu.
But I may be allowed to switch to #Ubuntu at work soon. IT does only allow Ubuntu, so no choice for me, still miles better than windows.
@Theholypumpkin @toby do you want some?
I.can get some into the discussion if you want to... ^^ 
@beebles aside from being forced to use very particular unfree proprietary surveillance capitalism software, there's no other reason to use Windows in 2023.
We need to abandon unfree (as in freedom) software completely, and seize back the ownership of our data and computers by exclusively using free and open source software.
If you don't control the software, the software controls you.
@b_cavello @beebles I think it was already pre-installed in the win 10 era.
Recently I had to install Windows 10 just to validate my new GPU to get a free game (which I won't play any time soon π).
Oh my is a new Windows 10 bloated! After install they stuff just Office 365, Bing, Edge right down your through. They now have a huge Bing search bar right on the desktop.
I'll remain on Linux, it's the better Gaming OS π.
@beebles This is the second best advice.
The best advice is not to install Windows, but you know that. :-)
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