IDK why it's so on my mind this morning, but I'm thinking about the people who claim to believe (without evidence) that Donald #Trump somehow won the 2020 #election despite being wildly unpopular and clearly not winning. It's bothered me for years that it seems like these people really cannot be negotiated or reasoned with, on the sheer basis that they are making the claim that they believe something that they can't believe in good faith...

#politics thread...

I'm thinking about how, when we look at groups making claims, we see them scrambling to put forward evidence, to find new ways to explain that evidence, to talk about why they believe the thing rather than just saying they believe it. If we look at #FlatEarthers, for example, they are constantly putting out diagrams and websites and explanations, trying to convince us with facts and reason that the earth is flat.

That's a good faith belief.

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I don't see that happening with Trump supporters claiming that the Democrats somehow magically changed literally every indicator that was taken in 2020 that Biden won the election. I just see them repeating the central claim, that the election was rigged, like some sort of #VirtueSignal, but never talking about the evidence.

And this is where I feel like negotiation isn't possible, as much as #NoLabels and the #Centrists insist there are "two sides"...

(cntd)

How do you negotiate with someone, in a democracy, who's only argument is that your votes shouldn't count? Who refuses to even speak on a level of trying to convince you that they even believe the thing they are saying? Who threatens violence before even entertaining the notion that perhaps the obvious happened rather than the thing that has no evidence?

I just don't see a path forward with these people, as much as I desperately want there to be one.

Change my mind