myrmepropagandist

As a very woke radical leftist I'm beyond tired of hearing people like ... Joe Biden and federal prosecutors(???) called "radical leftists."

They did not. They are not. They did not earn that title! That is mine! We are NOT the same OK?

Anyway, on the bright side, when real radical leftists start showing up what are the republicans gonna call us? "Super duper extra spicy double plus hot crossed buns radical left?" You spent your biggest move! You've got nowhere more shocking to go!

Aug 16, 2023 at 1:35pmWeb
Show threadBunNICKula🇨🇦Aug 16, 2023

@futurebird

Also, if the real radical left shows up and they are given the label, then they get compared to Joe and go that's not so bad. #TrojanHorse

Show threadThe Duke of Mars 💬 🗨️ 🗯️ 💭Aug 16, 2023
@futurebird this is why I don’t understand why democrats are scared to move too far to the left. conservatives have already been calling them communists for years and they’ll keep saying something like it no matter what
Show threadAlanAug 16, 2023
@bookybookman @futurebird because a good portion of them are just as economically conservative & tied to corporations as the right. The Democratic Party only ran out the last anti abortion rep in Biden’s election cycle iirc (and that had to overcome the financial support from the “centrist” house leadership & fundraising apparatus)
Show threadThe Duke of Mars 💬 🗨️ 🗯️ 💭Aug 16, 2023
@metaphase @futurebird yeah I agree there, so my frustration is broader than elected officials. Around election time I always hear people say they would vote for x but they think y will do better against z, etc
Show threadAlanAug 16, 2023

@bookybookman @futurebird I think to replace the conservative elements in the Democratic Party, people who want the party to go more left (including me) need to focus on getting more local and regional representatives elected.

I mean weigh in on the more national offices, but we’ll keep losing those internal decisions often until we put on more and more people from the ranks below that want to go further left.

Show threadAlan TwigzAug 16, 2023
@metaphase @bookybookman @futurebird Yeah I don't think most Democrat leadership is "scared" to go left, they might use 'optics' as an excuse to not push stuff their voters care about more than they do, though
Show threadDaniel Schwarz Aug 16, 2023
@bookybookman @futurebird Far left is not where the majority of Democrats are at present… nor are the moderates/persuadeable others that they need to win over. AOC can run as far left as she likes in her district. That district is never flipping red. The challenge is how to keep a broad coalition together that spans AOC’s district, Abigail Spanberger’s district, and everything in between
Show threadThe Duke of Mars 💬 🗨️ 🗯️ 💭Aug 16, 2023
@dschwarz @futurebird that is the trick. meanwhile the republicans are somehow able to move their entire party further and further to the right without such concerns, shifting the goalpost of what many consider moderate to mean. frustrates me.
Show threadIron Pencil Statue  Aug 16, 2023

@futurebird I like to think Republicans just can't handle seeing a true "very woke radical leftist" and spontaneously combust from shock after learning what one is.

I mean, I come from the age where "radical" meant "super cool and probably wears a backwards cap". At a minimum, Biden has to pass some progressive policy AND pop an ollie (While I want the backwards hat I will allow him a helmet) before I will call him a radical leftist.

Also (sometimes my imagination gets away from me if you hadn't noticed lol) I like imagining IF (god forbid) we had another red scare, being hauled before it, and giving an angry response when asked about my evil "liebral biases"

Because imo a true leftist means you have to take someone calling you a liberal as an insult (and you should!)

Show threadWestern InfidelsAug 16, 2023
@lapis @futurebird
Show threadIron Pencil Statue  Aug 16, 2023
@WesternInfidels @futurebird can't wait until these people do sick tricks standing in front of the house of unamerican activities lol
Show threadFeralRobotsAug 16, 2023
@futurebird
Joking aside, they want to flatten all distinctions amongst members of the opposition, so they're absolutely fine with losing that degree of finesse.
Show threadUrsidinoj/The BjornsdottirsAug 16, 2023
@futurebird They'll call us pinko spies.
Show threadPaul SmaldinoAug 16, 2023
@futurebird a few weeks ago I was at the gym and saw Fox News repeatedly refer to the NYC district attorney as “far left.”
Show threadGlennAug 16, 2023
@psmaldino @futurebird Well he is definitely to the far left of Ron DeSantis.
Show threadWigbert B 🎻🏛🎭🎤🗞🎥📚Aug 16, 2023

@futurebird

… and they are rather considered “conservative/ liberal” from a European point of view - certainly not even “social democratic” which is right of “the Left” in Germany 🙄…

Show threadJeremy KahnAug 16, 2023

@futurebird (how to pin someone else's toot, etc)

(This speaks for me too)

Show threadCassandrichAug 16, 2023
@trochee @futurebird +1 application for quote toots..
Show threadDieuAug 16, 2023
@futurebird they'll call you pedophiles
Show threadGolfhaus still uses emoji: ⛳🏠Aug 16, 2023

@futurebird A conversation, circa 2013:

Coworker: "Of course Obama did [whatever he did that week], he's a socialist."
Me: "No he's not."
"How can you say that he isn't?"
"Because I'm a socialist, and I can't stand the guy*, he doesn't do nearly enough."
/coworker makes that Pikachu OMG face/

Didn't get included in many conversations after that.

*This wasn't a true statement, but in the context of a discussion with this specific coworker, you had to say things a certain way to make points.

Show threadLt. Commander ReggieAug 16, 2023
@futurebird Biden is so far right of me, I can’t see him
Show threadSummer LaneAug 16, 2023
@futurebird it’s truly not fair that the only people who get to live in the universe where Joe Biden is a hard line socialist are the right.
Show threadNo Return “Podcast”Aug 16, 2023

@StephAnne @futurebird

It is quite entertaining as a left wing Brit (and our ‘major left’ party is pretty centrist) to hear that the Democrats are ‘left’ at all 😂

They are basically our Tory party (right wing light by comparison to US conservatives)

I’m sure someone will come in and correct me but it’s defo how it looks from my perspective 😆

Show threadDaniel Schwarz Aug 16, 2023
@futurebird The GOP attempt to marginalize median Democrats by labeling them “far left“ has nothing to do with actual leftist politics, just as GOP labeling of things as “critical race theory” has nothing to do with actual critical race theory. It’s just a convenient weapon.
Show threadJoeStewartAug 17, 2023
@dschwarz @futurebird
You’re quite right, Dan. And we need to both remember this technique and call it out when we encounter it.
I suspect many who use the technique don’t recognize either the technique or the implications….
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteAug 18, 2023
@dschwarz @futurebird The same goes for the actual far left calling median Dems “Corprate Dems” They are both practicing a form of “Negative Partisanship”
Show threadOblomovAug 16, 2023
@futurebird it's one of the many ways in which they pretend to be moderates rather than fascists.
Show threadRhinos Worry Me has movedAug 16, 2023

@futurebird

"Anyway, on the bright side, when real radical leftists start showing up what are the republicans gonna call us?"

Terrorists.

Show threadAlan TwigzAug 16, 2023
@futurebird It's in their interests to flatten their opposition. If everyone is either "us" or (((them))), they discourage compromise and intensify their in group bias
Show threadWeaselAug 16, 2023
@futurebird
Marxists!
Show threadCautionWIP (he/him) 🏳️‍🌈🇨🇦🕎Aug 16, 2023
@weaselx86 @futurebird Or socialists, or communists..
Show threadMarc CrileyAug 18, 2023
@futurebird Hell, in Alabama GOP primaries the candidates call each other radical leftists.
Show threadEleanor SaittaAug 18, 2023
@futurebird
Generally, they call us terrorists.
Show threadApple Annie Aug 18, 2023
@futurebird terrorist, pretty sure they already are
Show threadStan Wonn 🏳️‍🌈 🌹Aug 18, 2023
@futurebird It's true. Once you've spent the "Communist" label on the likes of BIden and normie Democrats, you've used up all your moves.
Show threadNick PhillipsAug 18, 2023
@futurebird Pretty sure "communist", "traitor", and "terrorist" are where they go next. 2 of which could be described as projection.
Show threadsneedy maccreedyAug 18, 2023
@futurebird 'antifa supersoldiers'
Show threadDavid Mitchell Aug 18, 2023
@futurebird