@ThisThornyRose Appreciated the conversation. I haven't respected those NGOs since most were certain Russia would never invade Crimea. I had an argument with several members from that community and a former CIA director's son at an intelligence conference before the invasion and recommended they reconsider their take given the ideological messaging in Putin's social influence circles (Dugin in particular) who necessitate "restoring"Ukraine to Mother Russia's domain. The ideology around making Russia great again is built atop the Orthodox mythology, Kiev as the Russian church capital, their claims to Ancient Greece through the colonies, etc.
The director's son actually laughed and totally dismissed the possibility noting "nobody listens to philosophers." Most in that NGO/IC community are incapable of the metasystems work to understand other peoples likely think differently than they do and may be a rational actor while doing something totally irrational in your own worldview.