Paul Haddad 

I wonder is hiring people that got fired considered poaching?

https://www.semafor.com/article/07/06/2023/twitter-is-threatening-to-sue-meta-over-threads

Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads | Semafor

The threat suggests that Threads is the most serious rival yet to Elon Musk's chaotic social platform.

Jul 6, 2023 at 6:42pmWeb
Show threadPaul Haddad Jul 6, 2023

Also the irony of Elon running to the courts to try to enforce contracts is 💯. *

* At least I think its ironic, Alanis really screwed me up on that one.

Show threadPaul Haddad Jul 6, 2023
How did I miss this beauty.
Show threadVeedemsJul 6, 2023
@paul lmfao oh my god that’s great
Show threadSomeGadgetGuyJul 6, 2023
@paul This is going to be a hilarious case I REALLY hope goes to court. Like, watching someone try to defend a LOOSE idea of IP based on micro-blogging is maybe the stupidest play to make right now. Especially with how supportive Musk has been with Dorsey and Bluesky.
Twitter can be copied by ONE billionaire but not another?
Show threadJoão PiedadeJul 6, 2023

@paul It must be the same legal firm that said Musk was deepfaked while attending an interview with hundreds of attendees.

They are creative, we can’t deny that.

Show threadViiriJul 6, 2023
@paul if Twitter 2.0 has managed one incredible feat, it’s making Meta look good
Show threadDani DanisJul 6, 2023
@paul
Show threadGerty SteinblattJul 7, 2023
@paul
Former Twitter employees are totally a thing.
Show threadRaineer  🦆Jul 6, 2023

@paul quite sure you're right on the irony of this one

The story of him getting evicted from the building right here in boulder is big news. It's like they had a contract to pay rent or something, idk

Show threadKevin Patrick Doyle 🍅🥫Jul 6, 2023
@paul “your honor, in my defense, Alanis Morrissette really messed with my brain”
Show threadPaul Haddad Jul 6, 2023
@Kevin I'll allow it.
Show threadColton WiseJul 6, 2023
@paul he’ll probably post a template contract online that’s miraculously backdated to like 2005, since they’ve backdated everything else they’ve done recently.
Show threadRyan PoolosJul 6, 2023
@paul courts? That’s so lame. I thought they were going to settle their disputes in the ring?
Show threadEdwin YoungJul 6, 2023
@ryanpoolos @paul Pistols at dawn!
Show threadhalcy​ Jul 6, 2023
@paul man i wonder why these people were on the job market and felt they needed a new job fast, so fast they‘d accept even an offer from a quite unpopular tech company like facebook, which will at minimum make your friends give you weird looks. I wonder why that is, elon. I wonder what wild and unlikely sequence of events might have led to this situation.
Show threadadamriceJul 6, 2023
@halcy @paul If this is true, whose fault is it that they continue to have access?
Show threadMarjyMonsterJul 6, 2023
@paul https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony
Definition of IRONY

Definition of 'irony' by Merriam-Webster

Show threadNatik GadzhiJul 6, 2023
@paul I don’t think “poaching” or any sort of employee noncompete is enforceable in CA and NY at the very least. Good luck though. 🙈
Show threadMark MalstromJul 6, 2023
@paul totally ironic. Like rain on your wedding day.
Show threadGary OwenJul 6, 2023
@markmalstrom @paul Like where are those 10,000 spoons when you need them huh? Gonna be real ironic when you have 10,000 bowls of soup for your 10,000 friends and all you have is a knife over there after you were just complaining about it.
Show threadNick LockwoodJul 6, 2023
@paul also lol at the idea that Facebook would need to steal trade secrets from Twitter to learn how to build a social network.
Show threadrhizomeJul 6, 2023
@nicklockwood
Not to mention half of all web development tutorials are "make a Twitter clone in 15 minutes"
@paul
Show threadRik MJul 6, 2023
@paul
Surely the irony is claiming that Twitter has any sort of proprietary technology or "secrets", when it's well understood that it's not a tech company, and it's tech is on the primitive side...
Show threadRob McDougallJul 6, 2023
@paul like rain on your wedding day?
Show threadKeith WilsonJul 6, 2023
@paul What are you talking about? Alanis unwittingly created the single greatest artistic expression of irony. Now *that’s* ironic! 😜
Show threadarrbeeJul 6, 2023
@paul If its not ironic its certainly elonic
Show thread🌈 Andrew ☄️Jul 6, 2023
@paul if none of the lyrics are irony, does that make it ironic?
Show threadSweetAI Belle Jul 7, 2023

@bnut @paul

For what it's worth, Alanis did an updated version of the song one time that included "it's singing Ironic but there are no ironies" in the list...

Show threadI Can't Believe It's Not Zero!Jul 6, 2023
@paul Given that actual "poaching" isn't even a thing you can't do ...
Show threadI Can't Believe It's Not Zero!Jul 6, 2023
@paul "They stole my employees!!!"
"Do you mean they kidnapped them?"
"No."
"Did they blackmail them into working for them?"
"No."
"So, what did they do?"
"They offered them more money/respect/flexibility than I was willing to."
"..."
Show threadPaul Haddad Jul 6, 2023
@steve s/employees/ex-employees… 🤷‍♂️
Show threadBen CohenJul 7, 2023
@steve @paul well there’s also “we were willing to pay them more than we could afford except during ZIRP for projects that made no business sense other than growth for the sake of it and then lay them off two years later”
Show threadBen CohenJul 7, 2023
@steve @paul sadly this particular business does make sense, if your business is “push dan bongino until people’s brains are melted enough to buy gold coins and blue lives matter merch”
Show threadScott PerryJul 7, 2023
@steve @paul Very stable mastermind: "You're trying to [poach] what I've rightfully [fired]!"
Show threadStefanJul 6, 2023
@paul the severance NDA could outline that. Unclear if a court would agree that is legal.
Show threadJérômeJul 6, 2023
@stefan @paul meta did not sign those NDA however.
Show threadStefanJul 6, 2023
@jerome @paul sure. not sure that matters in this case. severance agreements can say all kinds of crazy shit.
Show threadMark M. EvansJul 6, 2023
@stefan @paul I'm 99% sure that in California, Business and Professions Code Section 16600 any “non-compete clause” which forbids an employees who is fired or resigns from working for a competitor or starting a competing business is illegal and unenforceable.
Show threadStefanJul 6, 2023
@markmevans @paul yeah which makes even attempting the lawsuit kind of funny.
Show threadEarthy TonezJul 6, 2023
@stefan Is the severance NDA valid if they didn't pay severance?
Show threadStefanJul 6, 2023
@mikkergp it's valid if they sign it. Though if you sign something that is against the law then the law wins.
Show threadEarthy TonezJul 6, 2023
@stefan Well right, but a contract requires mutual consent and adequate consideration, if the contract was don't do X for Y severance and Twitter didn't pay the severance, then the contract wasn't fulfilled.
Show threadRobert Petersen Jul 6, 2023
@paul how does one poach *former* employees? Isn’t that like someone screwing an ex SO and me calling them a cheater? 🤔
Show threadBleak FutureJul 6, 2023
@Sonikku @paul in so many words - AND in this instance you were the one who dumped them.
Show threadConlan SpanglerJul 6, 2023
@paul That’s hilarious.
Show threadChris GlassJul 6, 2023
@paul Meanwhile he's going around pretending it's exactly the same as Instagram. Trying to have it both ways.
Show threadSteve RossJul 6, 2023
@paul Non-competes are largely illegal in California, so... good luck with that, Elon.
Show threadDavidNelsonNMJul 6, 2023
@paul Hard to enforce a severance agreement if you refuse to pay fired workers the severance. Just saying.
Show threadBret CarmichaelJul 6, 2023
@paul Oh, that’s rich. “We fired you, stiffed you on your severance, and we don’t think you should be allowed to work at any company that might compete with us in the future.” If that’s Twitter’s best response to Threads, they’re done.
Show threadChuck SkodaJul 6, 2023
@paul LOL goodluckwiththat Elon.
Show threadDoug TabaccoJul 6, 2023
@paul It’s like threaaaads on your tweeting day.
Show threadUnderten OverJul 6, 2023
@paul yeah because twitter invented writing text messages with a computer.
Show threadRedFossaJul 6, 2023
@paul "In today's episode of Elon Makes a Mistake, we get to journey with the uneducated billionaire as he learns about failed Look and Feel lawsuits and the Apple Computer vs Microsoft litigation of 1988 to 1994."
Show threadthudJul 6, 2023
@paul Between Elon and Zuck, I don’t think Zuck was the Twitter killer.
Show threadJeffy 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦 ❤️🇱🇺Jul 6, 2023
@thud @paul Mutual annihilation would have been the better outcome.
Show threadPierreJul 6, 2023
@paul meta might have more lawyers than twitter has employees
Show threadRyanJul 6, 2023
@paul I think in the same way as hitting a deer that ran out in front of your car.. yes.. ‘poaching’ 😏
Show threadBrennan StehlingJul 6, 2023
@paul Why would it be necessary to poach employees to copy an app? Facebook/Meta has been copying other apps for years. (Stories, Reels) It is not like this functionality is advanced. It is text displayed as a list of posts. It's boilerplate social media that we have been using for many years.
Show threadCalumJul 9, 2023
@brennansv On the other hand, Twitter did essentially manage to patent Twitter. https://www.wired.com/2013/03/twitter-patents/
Twitter Wins Patent for Twittering

Twitter has received a patent for, well, Twitter. Originally filed in 2008, the patent describes a "device independent message distribution platform," and it was officially granted Tuesday by the U.S. Patents and Trademark Office.

WIRED
Show threadAdam DavisJul 7, 2023
@paul I want to know how these ex-employees "continue to have access to Twitter's trade secrets"? I'm sure Twitter shut down their employee accounts. Elon is clearly trying to intimidate someone here, I'm just not sure who.