I feel like my generation experienced Peak Internet and we’re now on a downward trend.

Google Search sucks. You can’t trust Amazon ratings. Twitter & Reddit are at war with their users. Every useful news site is paywalled and every garbage one is free.

Turns out 2010s were the good old days.

@carnage4life i use duckduckgo as a search engine and it works quire well, try it :)
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It works OK in English. In less central languages (mine is Hebrew) it is still inferior to Google, in spite of the fact that DDG is well-intentioned and Goog isn't.
@carnage4life it feels like they all decided together to end things in 2023.

@carnage4life Google search's decline has been the biggest shock; that was the answer to our prayers back in the late 1990s, and how far has it fallen!

Can't agree about paywalled new sites though; they have to pay for their journalism somehow. I subscribe to three of them.

@timrichards @carnage4life Recently I was trying to find a transparent arrow with a Google image search. Every hit on the first few pages requires you to register and log in before you can download the transparent image.

What have they done to our Internet?

@carnage4life One of the major accomplishments the #BigTech has achieved IMO was slowly making us forget about the wild, exciting, and emergent nature of the Internet, and that their tidy walled gardens are all that we can have. Continuing to believe that it's of our own choosing, I say.
@carnage4life definitively Gramsci-old-world-dying-new-world-struggeling-to-be-born-time-of-monsters vibes in the air nowadays
@carnage4life probably needs to burn down to rise again.
@carnage4life Back in my day unsustainable enterprises went out of business quickly and with dignity!

@carnage4life I’m with you (except for the news paywall, good local journalism and online ad margins don’t scale).

Is this all a symptom of the end of near-zero interest. Growth at all costs leading to a focus on mostly good user experience vs. now everyone wants the “right” users and fat (or any) margins?

@carnage4life @jlowenwrites there are some good people working on making the Internet better. They’re just being trodden down by the big guys… (but won’t give up!)

@carnage4life The good stuff is there but the trash is like an overwhelming fungus. Google Search is much more A.I.-like now: you often get a better, cleaner result using a conversational question than a search phrase of keywords.*

We, in libraries, are the answer. Visit your nearest library and work with us. Our job has always been to sort out all the things. In our library, you can even borrow a kettlebell.

*Try it: just type: what time is it? in Google Search, for example.

@carnage4life am I on your lawn? Should I get off it?

@carnage4life A hypothesis:

For most of the last 150-200 years technology advances have been transformative because our ability to change the world lagged our thinking on social structures. New tech let us do things we had only thought about.

Now that’s played out. We want new tech to transform, but it reinforces. Our social imagination (and implementation) lags our technical proficiency.

We need less Allen Newell and more John Stuart Mill, Paulo Friere, bell hooks,Thomas Paine….

@carnage4life was it just peak America? Since then we’ve seen rollbacks in the offline world too: abortion, affirmative actions in university, new assault on LGBTQ rights, fascists on the loose & running the GOP, …

@carnage4life Right - bizarre the degree to which spam filters on services like Google Voice and Google Fi are failing, too

And with all the noise everyone's making about conversant AI, Google Home and Alexa keep getting worse and worse at answering questions they'd have answered well c2019.

We are absolutely in a period of decline.

@carnage4life it bums me out so much, I'm constantly in a sour mood about it lol
@carnage4life strong disagree. Maybe true in the context of 2D web, but the 3D web is just getting started.
@carnage4life we still have Wikipedia and it must be protected at all costs.
@carnage4life I’m honestly not sure what any particular generation has to do with it. Everyone who was about 10 years old or older by 2010 experienced it.
@carnage4life what are you doing about it?
@carnage4life @hannu_ikonen Everyone here believes that, the question is whether we are going to succeed in creating new good old days that are actually sustainable. Stay tuned!

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True.

@duckduckgo works still ok to fine for me and #Mastodon is (still?) free.

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decentralization will fix it

@carnage4life Thanks for your work on bing. ;)

I’ve used it since start.com and have been mostly happy with the results.

(Except the click-jacking at the top. That’s not great.)

@carnage4life Internet realized climate change was killing the planned so they wanted to make sure they weren't left behind
@carnage4life The nineties were even better because life outside the internet was still a thing
@carnage4life the new "back in the day!" refrain 

@carnage4life I tell people are civilization is collapsing. We didn't take into account how hard it is to maintain & fix stuff.

I hope that's just a joke!

@carnage4life The Mayans were right, it seems. The world did end in 2012. We are probably the result of running a hastily restored backup or something... 🙄
@carnage4life This is what stinks about the good old days. You never know they are happening until they are gone.
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I find the 2000s were way better than the 2010s
@carnage4life Sure does! Today I just bit the bullet and bought Ivory. Makes Mastadon a lot better.
@carnage4life all those companies did great things when they were young and achieving their original mission was an enormous challenge. Now they are large and care only about revenue optimization or unfocused mindless expansion.
@carnage4life maybe we’ll get lucky and it’ll all fall over and we can build something newer and better.
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I feel like the Fediverse is taking us back to the good ol' days - no pop-up ads, or notification requests, or paywalls, just interacting with other human beings like we're in IRC or something. Now we just need lean and mean browsers again...
@carnage4life ik vind de officiële.. mainstream (ha) wel goed en betrouwbaar...
@carnage4life we were happy and didn't know it 😭

@carnage4life I lived through the bubble of 2000. Don't worry, it'll be back for a while.

But there will be a shit crust added, as all generations leave their shit crust on top of one another.

@carnage4life the Guardian is still free, albeit with begging for subs.
@carnage4life I’m SO with you! However, I use two ‘not awful’ news sources, which are not behind paywalls - if you don’t currently access them they are worth a look: the Guardian, theguardian.com and the Conversation, Theconversation.com I read UK editions but can get US, Australia and other International versions too #newswithoutpaywall #publicsphere
@carnage4life As additional comment - I subscribe to both because they don’t require it! I can currently afford it and I want good journalism to continue AND be available to those who can’t pay. Someone said they wished there was a way to pay for one article from some news outlets that use paywalls and I completely agree. You can’t subscribe to all.