Whatever is going on right now in #Russia, I do note this: #Twitter is now useless at tracking this. Junk accounts everywhere, no verified accounts, swarms of sketchy bluechecks.

The ONE thing that place was good at was breaking global news. But not now.

See everyone here tonight.

@tchambers It's EXACTLY what many of us said would happen as Musk started talking about freeze peach.
It does NOT matter that there is a functional address on the internet called "twitter dot com".
What made twitter a unique platform has already died.
@tchambers I saw some speculation that this was exactly why the Saudi's put a bunch of money into Elon's takeover. Making Twitter useless for things like this benefits them.

@The_Tim @tchambers And the Russians. Does anyone really think Musk poured 50b of his own dollars into twitter?? It's controlled by the right wing.

The thing is if all news, government, celebrities with a conscience left, they could kill twitter.

Leave Twitter, destroy Musk.

@tchambers remember, the chaos is the point to anything coming out of Russia. Chief Twit wants chaos.

Get your resources on here. There are some fabulous accounts giving reliable info.

@tchambers I recommend @uanews It’s sadly a twitter mirror and not original content. But it’s a curated list of good accounts with good info.

I don’t recommend you to follow them though, put them in a list to not spam your home feed.
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@tchambers yeah, not a good moment for finding hard to verify in-the-moment info (!)
@tchambers That was the whole point of elno muscovy's takeover.
Platform was too powerful, too accurate and fast with political dissidents and investigative journalists all in one place. Despots threw in some money at his direction to take and control the narrative. Cue Erdogan in the last election. They've done a Facebook. But with a billionaire pos(t)er boy.

@tchambers

Yup. I just came from there (NYT). However, neither #Twitter nor #Facebook ever did substitute as news sources for me. I’m a #newspaper #subscriber all the way down.

@tchambers We've been trying to sort the wheat from the chaff regarding #russia and #Ukraine for sure, but the signal to noise ratio is far better here.
@tchambers I don't know. I followed a lot of Ukraine accounts before, and they're very busy and interesting right now. I guess for a less tuned-in audience, the experience could be different.

@tchambers

I'm checking in on https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA

and
https://twitter.com/NOELreports

and on the "Ukraine at War" discord which has bots from the reddit groups and posts the most interesting tweets

and
https://liveuamap.com/

Between those and here I'm getting most of what's happening

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@tchambers agreed. I worked in local news when Twitter arrived and taught my local journalist staff how to use and trust and research. My how the mighty have fallen :(
@tchambers Actually, I'm (unfortunately) finding it a good place for info - but I know whose accounts to check as I was following a lot of Ukraine news pre-Elon. I agree searching hashtags is a now waste of time on Twitter now because of the mass of disinfo and fascist crap (and RU bots/fake acocunts right now I'm sure)
@tchambers It was never reliable, the unreliability was just better hidden.
@tchambers this is the data flow I’ve been needing since the Solstice Moment when I “left” Twitter
@tchambers This was the place where I first learned Trump was indicted. Thanks to Popehat...

@tchambers Sorry, but Twitter was *never* a place to track breaking international news, even in the days when the Twitter C-Suite and the Obama State Department had each other on speed dial.

It was *always* a struggle for journalists to fact-check tweets. It may be worse now but it was never acceptable.

@AlgoCompSynth @tchambers Agreed. At a minimum, Twitter should have been awesome for hyper local stories. E.g. there’s local flooding, which roads are blocked.

It could never do as good a job of that kind of news as actual local reporters or government emergency services.

It wasn’t even very good at telling you the injury status of a backup on your favorite sports team.

@tchambers while this is true to some degree, I think Twitter was always overrated as a real-time news source. There was (and still is) real information there, but there was always a torrent of rumor, speculation, and misinformation. It only sort of worked if you selected known reputable accounts.
@kajord @tchambers It was legit for news in the early 2010s. Somehow, when Obama announced his run for presidential office, the platform went to sh*t.
@Bradley_JF @kajord @tchambers Obama ran for prez in 2008. Twitter had barely started
@Chimaera @kajord @tchambers My bad. Brain was too tired. I meant when Trump announced his run for office.
@Bradley_JF @kajord @tchambers oh yes, you’re 100% correct on that
@kajord @tchambers It worked by organic social circles of trust in expertise surfacing the relevant takes and boosting them over the junk. All that is in ruins now.
@tchambers Where is the CIA when you need them?
@tchambers
This event, today, I heard about on the fediverse. This is where I get breaking stories now. I can't be the only one. (Still waiting for verified details from my trusted sources).
@tchambers makes sense. The country who makes all of the bots is the one that's in danger, of course they would be working overtime.
@tchambers Well, surprise... surprise... THAT was Musk's (and his Extreme Right friends) goal... no question...
@tchambers It's on #reddit but for #twitter and news about war good place is https://www.reddit.com/live/18hnzysb1elcs all rational twitter people quoted. Fk reddit can't go to hell later after real world shit show.
[live] /r/WorldNews Live Thread for the Russian Invasion of Ukraine

Live thread for aggregating news and updates to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

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@tchambers I'm finding Masto pretty good these days, news ripples a lot better
@tchambers I miss Twitter in its good old days, when citizen journalism was instant
@tchambers You must admit, the news is broken on Twitter.
@tchambers Twitter has become a cesspool

@tchambers

#twitter #russia
I'm trying to port this news tracking over here (and Bluesky benbo.bsky.social) since a few months, also built a tool that archive & translate content from Telegram back to the open web. Check https://osintukraine.com
@benb
@ua @ru

There are other accounts doing good work here @ChrisO_wiki @noelreports

@tchambers

Really good coverage on the Ukraine subreddits. Shame what's happening to that site, too, though

@tchambers

I'd recommend
@ChrisO_wiki

Follows the human aspects of the war very well.

The sort of person who knows the technical business of war very well, is not welcome on Mastodon.

Leader of Wagner mercenaries says forces entered Russian city of Rostov facing no resistance

The owner of the Wagner private military contractor Yevgeny Prigozhin says his forces have driven into the Russian city of Rostov, facing no resistance.

PBS NewsHour
@tchambers in English maybe. In Russian there's so much I can hardly keep up
@tchambers does Igor Suchko have a non twitter output? He's normally very good
@tchambers Twitter, from breaking news, to broken news. "Twitter will become the source for truth and news".
Turns out that when the informed people leave, it becomes a disinformationopia. (disinformation Eutopia).
@tchambers correct about Twitter. It is like a bunch of random electronic post it notes of mostly creepy ads.
@tchambers Putin attempted to flee Russia, but his plane was blown out of the sky. I read it on Twitter innit.
@tchambers I am following some live blogs who sort through the drek.
@tchambers It’s especially ironic considering that Musk outspoken ambition was to turn Twitter into the number news canal.

@tchambers

the people of Rostov are showing their Russian hearts

@tchambers just go on Reddit. Oh wait...
@tchambers you just need to track the Ukrainian segment, then it's both hilarious and detailed
@tchambers Alt news is definitly more informative. Here is a page I built that tracks breaking headline news across 34 different categories: https://mkvxstream.com/tvstreamin/news.html
Breaking News Headlines

Quickly Find the Latest Breaking News Across 20 News Categories...

@tchambers Agreed, it used to be *the* place for such things, once upon a time.