John Earle

More meaningless pledges from the lying Labour leader | Vox Political
https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2023/06/19/more-meaningless-pledges-from-the-lying-labour-leader/

#Keir #Starmer #Labour #pledge #military #green_energy #Israel #apartheid #rig #election

Fuck this charlatan
#LabourInNameOnly #ToryBTeam in action

More meaningless pledges from the lying Labour leader

Labour leader Keir Starmer has come out with a couple more pledges to make voters happy for a while. Expect them to be reversed long before any general election. The first is a promise to repair go…

Vox Political
Jun 19, 2023 at 2:18pmMastodon Share
Show threadChristoJun 19, 2023
@Skembear The lie that is
#NetZero
Show threadJohn EarleJun 19, 2023
@Christo98 An invention to keep the really concerned distracted
Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 19, 2023
@Skembear
#StarmerOUTNOW
Show threadJohn EarleJun 19, 2023
@MusiqueNow The sad thing is, his replacement would be just as awful. Not enough left of centre, never mind left, MP's and CLP's left to keep the Tory B team out
Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 19, 2023

@Skembear

I can't even stand to look at him!

My hubby and I were talking about the whole thing we've been on about kick the Tories out, then kick the Tories out of the Labour Party.

IDK, start a new party? Go to the #Greens?

Not voting is not an option

Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 19, 2023

@Skembear

So, what s your opinion?
New party (to hell with Labour)
or
Increase the fight to kick out the #FarRightInTheLabourParty?

Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow Sorry, had an outage and reply didn't make it. I will try again
Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow There is no chance of any kind of fight back. They have set the scene now where rules can be changed and retrospective punishment can be used to quash dissent.
Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023

@MusiqueNow The only course of action lies outside of the party. Historically, new parties will fail. Never enough support, or finances. The only options available are protest votes, which invariably gift power to the enemy party, or a multi union backed working class party, with support from all the fractured left leaning organisations.

There has always been factions within the left that will make the left eat itself. The right will rally round to protect the 'power for power's sake' mentality

Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow It would take a generation before said new party to make any real inroads. The Greens are moving in the right direction, but still only have 1 MP. UKIP, who forced the Tory party to swing further to the right, although acheived the near impossible and swept the board at the EU election and gained huge figures at home, still never got an MP elected. Maybe something like that, but from the other end of the overton window, to try scare Labour into doing what UKIP did to Tories
Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 20, 2023

@Skembear

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Momentum within Labour supposed to be the force that pushed the party to the left?

I suppose that could be the role of the Greens.

Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow It did start out that way, but Lansman was a snake who got a sniff at power and ultimately didn't give a toss about anyone but his own advancement. I was a member at the beginning when it was classed as a grassroots organisation fighting to get progressives elected. In 2017 Momentum were instrumental in helping to get Labour within 2,000 votes of victory. The biggest vote share since 1945.
Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow Since 2020 Momentum’s response to the onslaught of the right of the party has amounted to little more than empty statements and complaints that there is nothing more it can do
Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 20, 2023

@Skembear

Aaah! It's all just ...sad!

Show threadJohn EarleJun 21, 2023
@MusiqueNow If this works, it would be the first time in history a political party (Labour) had been elected to government without a leader
https://ocisa.org.uk/
OCISA - Unseat Starmer

Unseat Starmer in response to his ban on Corbyn standing in Islington North

OCISA
Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 21, 2023

@Skembear

Thanks for sending me this

Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 20, 2023

@Skembear

What do you think is behind the left always fucking itself up

Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow There are too many things people need and the fighting tends to come from what is the most important, or what needs to be tackled first. What priorities there are and the big one, personalities. progressives strive to change things, whereas conservatives want to broadly keep things the same. Keeping things the same is easy, whereas trying to change things for the better can and does have many different, sometimes competing interpretations
Show threadJohn EarleJun 20, 2023
@MusiqueNow . Thus while the right can coalesce around this obvious shared goal, the left gets bogged down in arguing over different possible interpretations of “utopia” - because it doesn’t exist, it’s hypothetical, but the ultimate goal is what most progressives agree with, what we don't agree with is how we get there
Show threadJohn EarleJun 19, 2023
@MusiqueNow I get where you're coming from. Where I am I get the choice between Tories and Tory B team. Going Green's not an option. All made worse by local counsellors who were instrumental in removing an outstanding left winger in favour of Blairites. Historically, new parties don't work, never enough support or money and just become protest votes which helps the Tories. The only option we have is to burn the place down, be more French and let whoever is in charge know we want change or else
Show threadMusiqueNow   ✡️ 🇵🇸 Jun 19, 2023

@Skembear

My famille is French 🇫🇷 (always proud of that)

Show threadChristoJun 19, 2023
@MusiqueNow @Skembear
Depending on your Constituency get the Tories out. Otherwise vote Green or whatever on your ballot