Paul Haddad 
Now saying all the quiet parts out loud.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762501/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-interview-protests-blackout
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: Reddit ‘was never designed to support third-party apps’

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman tells The Verge that he’s fine that some of Reddit’s most-beloved third-party apps are shutting down, claiming they didn’t add value to the platform and were “subsidized” by other users.

The Verge
Jun 15, 2023 at 10:40pmWeb
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 15, 2023
Reddit is now the perfect example of Crab Mentality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipg4EL_JUyE
The Boondocks Hateocracy - Crabs

YouTube
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 16, 2023
This guy is really unhinged.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762868/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-interview
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman isn’t backing down: our full interview

We interviewed Reddit CEO Steve Huffman about the widespread unrest on the platform in response to its forthcoming API changes.

The Verge
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 16, 2023

These statements are contradictory to me. You can't say you are charging what it costs and you are trying to only charge $1/user. Doesn't add up.

"What they didn’t like is the price, but the price is the price. It just happens to be expensive to run an app like Reddit.”

"Like we try to charge so it works out to about $1 per user per month for reasonable API usage”

Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 16, 2023
But hey they are willing to work with developers as long as there are no changes to the pricing or arbitary deadline.
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 16, 2023
Huffman is right, no one should subsidize a business for free. Weird though I can't seem to find the statement where Reddit announced that they are going to start paying moderator and content creators…
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 16, 2023
Reddit is working hard with them 3rd party developers just don’t know why they don’t want to work with Reddit.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/16/23763661/reddit-rif-is-fun-developer-ceo-steve-huffman
RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims that he didn’t want to work with Reddit

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman said that the developer of rif is fun for Reddit (RIF) did not want to work with Reddit on the company’s planned API pricing changes. However, the developer, Andrew Shu, tells me that’s not the case.

The Verge
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 16, 2023
Imagine looking at Twitter as an example of what to do.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700
Reddit CEO praises Elon Musk as protests rock platform

Twitter owner Elon Musk may have had an influence on Reddit’s CEO ahead of changes to the website that have resulted in a user-led rebellion on the platform.

NBC News
Show threadSloan StudioJun 16, 2023
@paul If your goal is to destroy your brand and lose majority of advertisers…
Show threadbackyardagrarianJun 18, 2023
@SloanStudio @paul it’s not. It’s fascism and total control of thd global conversation.
Show threadSloan StudioJun 18, 2023
@lizbrownmorgan @paul Both may be true…
Show threadKelly GuimontJun 16, 2023
@paul I'd like to thank /r/spez for confirming what most people suspected once he started down a now familiar road...
Show threadpaulJun 16, 2023
@Verso @paul
Show threadBernie Hofley Jun 16, 2023
@paul if you’re looking to blow up your service/product, I could find no better example than Musk’s approach with Twitter.
Show threadDoney den OudenJun 16, 2023
@paul Literally went "hold my beer"
Show threadGeekpulp Jun 16, 2023
@paul someone wants to be acquired and he knows just the guy to do it…
Show threadJan AdriaenssensJun 16, 2023
@paul Disconnecting the tools that are being used by the people who provide *free content* to your site. What can go wrong?
Show threadMike BeasleyJun 16, 2023
@paul he looks like a guy who would look up to elon musk
Show threadJonathan PolleyJun 16, 2023
@paul I definitely want to invest in a company whose leadership thinks Musk’s Twitter is something to emulate.
Show threadElias FoxJun 16, 2023
@paul is Reddit going to get evicted from their offices then?
Show threadBrennan StehlingJun 16, 2023
@paul The fact that Twitter became so hostile to 3rd party apps years ago should disqualify it as a model to follow. I’d like to see apps pivot just like you’ve done with @ivory to a decentralized alternative. #Reddit
Show threadThom McGrathJun 16, 2023
@paul Every day I lose a little more hope that some kind of middle ground will be found. I hate Musk even more now.
Show threadJanek @ IndieDev.siteJun 16, 2023
@tekcor @paul Yeah with this article I think we are done here. The guy is absolutely deranged.
Show threadChris AdamsonJun 16, 2023
@paul Once again, I have to wonder: is this some kind of Brewster’s Millions scenario, where if he blows $200 million, he wins $2 billion? #RedditBlackout
Show threadEarthy TonezJun 16, 2023
@paul This may explain some things https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700
Reddit CEO praises Elon Musk as protests rock platform

Twitter owner Elon Musk may have had an influence on Reddit’s CEO ahead of changes to the website that have resulted in a user-led rebellion on the platform.

NBC News
Show threadLars Jun 16, 2023
@paul It’s pretty clear at this point that Reddit is not even trying to work with developers. They’re only saying they are to hide the fact they want 100% of users to access Reddit via their app or their site so they can decide what to show users. Targeted ads, targeted posts, etc. Things they can’t control via third-party apps.
Show threadSemmelstulleJun 16, 2023
@paul I just hope they get fricked over the GDPR breach by actually NOT deleting data (of EU citizens) and even RESTORE stuff. And we know the EU loves huge amounts of money because companies just shrug and go on,
Show threadPatrick HillsJun 16, 2023
@paul I agree, you know, it's just so unknowable. These freeloading devs driving users and engagement on their platform. The gall.
Show threadTheMightySpitzJun 16, 2023
@paul It’s Bender logic.
Show threadMattJun 16, 2023
@paul yuuup
Show threadtechnicatJun 16, 2023

@paul

In fact, they talk a lot in the user agreement about how they're not going to pay anyone:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

Show threadtoxtethogradyJun 16, 2023
@paul Huffman got huffy when that was suggested him...
Show threadGarret Jun 16, 2023
@paul This line of questioning is what I’m waiting to see from any news outlet covering this.
Show threadMiroslav StankicJun 16, 2023
@paul They started threatening to replace them.
;- ) =
Show threadJuan VillelaJun 16, 2023
@paul 3rd party apps where not using the API for free, as far as I'm aware.
Show threadpato 🦆Jun 16, 2023
@paul they're also more than willing to let others do the accessibility work for free!
Show threaddemizeJun 16, 2023
@paul I like how they still haven’t said any of the apps they are working with (other than the accessibility apps) but keep repeatedly calling out Christian as Scrooge McDuck
Show threadLeon CowleJun 16, 2023
@paul After the writeup by the Apollo dev, I came away thinking that the Reddit CEO sounded like a dick, BUT I reminded myself that it was still only one side of the story (albeit very believable). Fast forward a few days, and the CEO, via a disastrous AMA, a company-wide memo, and several media appearances has completely convinced me that, yes indeed, he is the biggest asshole possible.
Show threadRavindra KanodiaJun 16, 2023
@leoncowle @paul somehow his own side of the story actually makes him look a lot worse
Show threadhybrid havocJun 16, 2023
@leoncowle
@paul @risottobias
Pretty on-brand for Reddit though
Show threadMichael GlotzerJun 16, 2023
@leoncowle @paul rather than an AMA, Huffman should have done an AITA
Show threadUnshureJun 16, 2023
@mglo @leoncowle @paul Imagine 😂😂😂
Show threadairikJun 17, 2023
@leoncowle @paul My thoughts exactly. Guy is an asshole. Not just that, he’s an idiot. Why would you even say these things publicly as a ceo with an ipo coming up???
Show threadDominic HoptonJun 16, 2023

@paul Sounds like someone just got back from their MBA graduation ceremony, and they’re ready to apply that knowledge!

Have we checked for a McKinsey engagement on the reddit books?

Show threadJesse GallagherJun 16, 2023
@paul Jesus, it’s like he just landed from Mars with a dictionary and a copy of Atlas Shrugged.
Show threadEric VitielloJun 16, 2023
@paul I wonder where he thinks his content comes from and how much he pays
Show threadjdrama418Jun 16, 2023
@pixel @paul that whole interview is infuriating.
Show thread_LiamJun 17, 2023
@pixel @paul seriously like someone who built a road thinking he owns all the cars. Someone else builds a better road and he’s like “that dude stole all my cars” and then he builds a toll bridge or something… idk my analogy is falling apart but you get what I mean.
Show threadEvil Gato 2077Jun 16, 2023

@paul i laughed way harder that I needed to, forgot this episode.

Thanks.

Show threadKendall SeaburyJun 16, 2023
@paul man the interviews with spez have been wild.
Show threadAmy D Jun 15, 2023
@paul It's so funny. He acts as if Christian is the only person that benefits from Apollo. There's a shit ton of users behind that app API usage that are there because the Reddit app sucks. Apparently Reddit views the users as disposable.
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 15, 2023
@travelingflwr I swear he must be personally offended by Christian, which is just so ridiculously petty.
Show threadAmy D Jun 15, 2023
@paul God complex maybe?
Show threadNewbGoob Jun 15, 2023
@paul "cover your costs"?? I have a hard time believing that it costs Reddit as much as they're charging for the API. God, I hate Huffman. Actual cannibal Huffman.
Show threadBobby JohnsJun 15, 2023
@newbgoob @paul they even admitted to Christan that they are viewing it not as actual costs but, opportunity costs.
Show threadNewbGoob Jun 16, 2023
@Bobbyjohns @paul could have had me subscribed to Reddit premium for years but instead they get nothing from me at least
Show threadBobby JohnsJun 16, 2023
@newbgoob @paul the whole thing screams of “we want to block 3rd party apps but try to have better PR than Twitter”. Oh well, screw em.
Show threadNewbGoob Jun 16, 2023
@Bobbyjohns @paul I agree
Show threadAva Jun 15, 2023
@newbgoob @paul Iirc, someone in one of the Apollo threads calculated that, based on their previous statements about their profits and revenue, they were charging 2-10x more per user than their own app brings in.
Show threadTim Ellis 🦝Jun 15, 2023
@paul Reddit has made it clear that as an RIF user they don't want me around. So be it. After 15 years on the site, I'll find some other place to contribute to.
Show threadJoe WJun 15, 2023
@paul everything this man says gets worse and worse