With the media so obsessed with the eventual "waste" from green energy production - end of life solar panels, turbine blades, batteries etc, wouldn't it be great if they provided context?

There are 9000 oil tanker ships on the planet. 10s of thousands of petrol trucks. 10s of thousands of petrol stations. 10s of thousands of miles of pipeline.

All of which are environmentally damaging to dispose of.

Yet, never discussed in the media. Its just the green boogeyman.

#Solar #Wind #GreenEnergy

@localzuk Good point. I still wonder about the thing where they have to dig up huge swathes of the ocean floor in order to find the ingredients for...cell phones is it? You wonder if this isn't the same opera, then.
@prokofy pretty much every modern electronic device requires rate earth metals,, such as you say, are most abundant at the bottom of the ocean. Mostly around China.
@localzuk So you're saying as per usual, Russia, China, Brazil, other bigs will be the worst polluters and destroyers but everyone will think the US, which does more than most to curb it, will be most to blame just because it's visible? Or how do you think that will work.

@prokofy Don't forget that China et al are only mining and polluting so much to feed the demand for goods for us lot in the West.

Their own economies are growing, for sure, but the consumption in the USA, UK, EU etc, far outstrip theirs.

@localzuk I can see you have a very limited understanding of Russia and China if you think all they do is mine and pollute to feed the West.

Did you know about the war in Ukraine or nah.

@prokofy I'm afraid it's you that have a limited understanding.

The West consumes far more than either Russia or China, per capita. We outsource enormous amounts of manufacturing to China, Indonesia, etc... It is a fact that considerable amount of the pollution from China is due to our consumption.

Not sure what Ukraine has got to do with a discussion about the consumption of the West and our outsourcing the production.

@localzuk I'm afraid you don't understand AT ALL the role of these countries in their own country, and the world. Nor is Western consumption the only evil of the world.

Where do I start? Russia occupies 1/6th of your Gaia's surface, ,dear.

@prokofy where did I say "only"?

@localzuk Do you think you can avoid the obvious ideological bias you've made visible by saying: "It is a fact that considerable amount of the pollution from China is due to our consumption.

China has a population of 1.4 billion people and is plundering other parts of Asia and Africa. The West is not at the center of the world.

You said China are "only mining and polluting so much" to feed the West. Do you think they didn't feed themselves first?