Tilly Bridgesit’s simple, really
there is no “trans debate”
human rights are NEVER up for debate
there’s nothing to discuss
you either believe all human beings deserve to be equal, or you’re a bigot
and we don’t debate with bigots
the end ✨🌈🌟
It's Just Jenn 🏳️⚧️@tillybridges 100% this. I don't "both sides" with fascists advocating for my genocide.
Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊@Tweetfiction @tillybridges
Demanding that we compromise with them. Yeah, that sounds great, what are they going to do, just kill us a little bit? Just halfway? We be kind to them and maybe they'll just stick a machete in our guts, call it square?
There can be no compromise with people whose chief goal is murder.
@Tweetfiction @theogrin the most baffling thing is the “centrists” who can’t comprehend that
I don't find it that baffling. They don't or can't believe the fash want us dead -- despite all the evidence we can throw at them, they cling to the notion that human beings are reasonable, rational and fundamentally good (if mistaken), and that their neighbor down the street is incapable of genuinely wanting us strung up on a tree branch.
It still breaks down tho when the equation is 'WE give the right incentive == THEY don't shoot us'.
@theogrin @Tweetfiction right, but that’s willful ignorance and that’s something I’ve just never understood. there’s a difference between believing the best of people and in the inherent goodness of humans and completely ignoring that a non-zero portion are violent, evil hatemongers.
Definitely wilful ignorance, but I feel it derives from a kind of projection known to us all. "I would never do such a thing, so why would anyone else?" Or at least, a trust that when someone does something morally inexplicable, that they have a good reason to do so.
That's no excuse, of course. At this point in our ever-broken history people should absolutely know better. I'm just trying to rationalize things.
Blaireau des Mauges@theogrin @tillybridges @Tweetfiction I remember reading pretty stern statements by Martin Luther King Jr. about that same crowd on a different issue.
Ugly Bag of Mostly Water@tillybridges
And I don't care if you're a coward who supports bigots, and then turns around and says, "but that's not how *I* feel!"
Supporting bigotry makes you a bigot, and bigots can get fucked.
Kevin Karhan 
@tillybridges +9001%
The only thing Facists deserve is the opportunity for them declaring their conditionless surrender - by all means necessary.
#TransRightsAreHumanRights - period!
Jay@kkarhan @tillybridges they don't even deserve that 🧐
DebraMilazzoSha@tillybridges so well said
Yvonne Buchanan@tillybridges Trans rights are human rights.
Southern Leftist@tillybridges
Only the advancement of human rights is valid.
Only the advancement of human rights is valid.
Prince Billy@tillybridges not everyone is intrinsically equal in capabilities though. That is like saying Lebron James is equal to Danny DeVito.
@PompousPenguin what the hell? this is entirely irrelevant
@tillybridges how is it irrelevant when you said that every human being deserves to be equal? It is impossible to be equal, wether intellectually, financially, aesthetically, or in any other significant way.
@PompousPenguin lol well thank you for letting me know you’re not worth my time! I appreciate it
Charles J Gervasi@PompousPenguin We mean having *equal rights*. The US Declaration of Independence was not saying the all people are created with all the same traits. @tillybridges
Mar :🌻@tillybridges very well said.
Joe 
@tillybridges *claps as the story ends*
T. J. Bombadil@tillybridges Also, let's stop calling it "Transphobia". They're not *afraid* of trans people. They're just assholes.
@c_dan4th transphobia doesn’t only mean fear (even though yes, they absolutely are afraid of us because of how we prove that the entire false dichotomy of the gender binary is a lie and they’ve built their entire lives around it… and being afraid makes them angry).
LibertyBeta@tillybridges There is a trans debate. But the topic set by the appointed moderator is "The perceived homoeroticism of reproduction Greco-Roman tableware settings in South Beach club owner's formal dining rooms".
One World One People@tillybridges TWW: One World One People
Celebrate with all people the world that is ours, bring into your home, bring into your heart, the many cultures and their multitude societies that have emerged from the love of life that we share. The moment is vast and your place within it is connected with all people from the time you breathe the same air and drink the same water as the very first.
*It’s true as you say. Be the guide show people that there is a better path. OWOP
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Sex Crazed SaltShaker of Death@tillybridges
Framing is everything.
Framing is everything.
toxtethogrady@tillybridges You would be surprised how many people think human rights are always up for debate and how many people are willing to elect them to office. It's part of the reason the world is as screwed up as it is...
Mxhrad@tillybridges Exactly. This is like when people tell me I should "understand" bigots instead of getting angry with them... no, the only thing I need to understand is that they're a bigot. There is no reasoning behind their bigotry that will make me excuse it for them. In this day in age, no one is so isolated as to not know bigotry is wrong.
Ben 🏳️🌈🇪🇺🇮🇪@tillybridges I had exactly this discussion recently.
Apparently, I'm a nieve idealist.
Apparently, I'm a nieve idealist.
Jonathan WrightI couldn't have put it better.
The ol' tealeg 🐡@tillybridges One of the great advantages of having your constitution written in the wake of fascist genocide is this: Article 1 of the German Basic Law: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html#p0019
@tillybridges not that this is perfectly applied, but still, having it in the constitution is a pretty good starting point.
@tealeg so how bad is transphobia in Germany? do you not have legislators trying to make laws that try to eliminate us?
@tillybridges It's a mixed bag - on the one hand, we have a 3rd gender "divers" (Diverse) in law, on the other hand, you can see things like this: https://www.dw.com/en/trans-germany/a-56031861
... and yes, of course, we have right-wing, anti-trans types as well. I would say that view is not *as* prominent as in the USA for example. I can't personally speak from experience as to how it feels to live here as a trans person, as I am not one.
@tealeg yeah see we ostensibly have laws here that should protect us, our liberty is being intentionally removed. but the bigots don’t care about that and the opposing party by and large refuses to stand up for us on a federal level
Melvin Gundlach@tillybridges @tealeg We are slowly getting there.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-unveils-plans-for-simpler-legal-gender-change-process/a-62315345
@tillybridges @tealeg I like the German version of that sentence even better because instead of „Human dignity *shall be* inviolable“ it says „Human dignity *is* inviolable“.
Toni Widmo@tillybridges Absolutely, 'trans debate' and 'jewish question' have similar vibes, and I will have serious trust issues with anyone that treats either term as legitimate.
@tillybridges the main reason I debate them is because I don't want someone who doesn't know better to get uncontested misinformation. I hope that by debating the idiots maybe it will make people look deeper that stumble across it.
@Thetruemasterofgames the problem is debating them legitimizes their position as one worth discussing, which it’s not. it’s legitimately harmful.
the best way to combat it is to reply with links to facts that disprove whatever nonsense they’re spewing and then block them. that way there’s no debate, yet anyone who comes across it and doesn’t understand has access to the needed information.
@tillybridges thats fair that also allows them to go "see none of them can defend it they just post biased info" and go on a rant I do however understand your position as well I just usually try to show how crazy they are so they don't have an inch to bounce back on but as with all things in rights movement it takes all kinds to be able to push back the tide I don't expect everyone to do what I do because it can be exhausting I've just grown numb to them and their idiocy
Dan@tillybridges @Thetruemasterofgames similarly I found that instead of replying to the OP “debate me” bigot - replying only to their audience also helps. A lot. Especially if you can untag the OP from the conversation.
Leave the bigot out of it and the others start to listen.
Blake Leonard@tillybridges all humans don't deserve to be equal. examples include billionaires and bigots. granted, considering them humans is only technically correct.
Tofu Golem@tillybridges
Modern Nazis are just like the WW2 German Nazis, who also went after trans people as they rose to power.
Modern Nazis are just like the WW2 German Nazis, who also went after trans people as they rose to power.
@tofugolem I know! And did you know when the allies liberated people from the camps, they left all the queer people in them? true story.
Tau@tillybridges
I will never understand people who think there is something to debate, I mean, who in their right mind thinks they have the right to decide how others can or can't be!?!
Just let people be themselves smh
Correy Winkler@tillybridges thats great
ChloePolitiCat@tillybridges Well said.
@tillybridges 100% this.
The anti-trans side has no valid viewpoints worth considering.
Those who do argue almost always come to the table in bad faith.
Their exclusive goal is to hurt the people I care about. And they will do anything they can to make that happen. So I don’t treat them with any respect and I ignore them.
Sean@tillybridges except there's a debate about who needs more protection to have those rights. If it's argued that as long as the government isn't committing the violation of rights, and that concludes the extent of what is to be done so everyone has rights, I suspect that a lot of people will feel that their rights don't exist if that is where it's left at.
Charles J Gervasi ⚡🛡️🥥@tillybridges If there's a debate about respecting the rights of transgendered people, there are endless individual traits we can debate the merits of. Once we do that, they're not really rights; they're just the opinion of the majority. Human rights are for everyone and not up for debate.
@cgervasi there is no debating the individual traits of trans people? that’s nonsense. also we are transgender, not transgendered. it’s not something that happened to us, it’s who we are and how we were born.
@tillybridges I mean there's no debating rights of any person. Sorry about using the wrong word. I meant it to emphasize *people*, so that "transgender people" wouldn't be taken as a different class of people whose rights bigots say are up for debate.
@cgervasi no worries, this is how we learn 🌟