It'll be better, they said! 1Password 8 is our best yet*.

* = for us. For the customer, it's tale of 1000 papercuts.

Update: I disabled and re-enabled the Safari extension. It now shows the extension... but won't autofill.

🥴

Back again, I see.

@1password

@caseyliss
I’ve used 1P for years and never seen that. How often is that occuring?

@1password

@gatewayy @caseyliss @1password well … 8 is pretty new. And Casey is running Ventura, right?
@caseyliss @1password A shift to Electron has literally never resulted in a better experience for users. All it does is make a crappy experience for users in exchange for some perceived engineering simplification.
@caseyliss @1password For me the loss of functionality in the browser extension from 7 > 8 is worse than the app differences. Nothing auto fills for me, nothing. My keyboard shortcut for Quick Access never works as expected in the browser. Even if I go and manually click the extension, and select the entry for the current site in the front most tab, it doesn’t populate the empty form. It opens up a new tab, loads the same site and then prompts me to select a login (because auto fill never works)
@camkerr @caseyliss @1password Also, if you “Clear History…", you get logged out. The extension is pointless for me with that.
@camkerr @caseyliss @1password this is my problem with 1P8. The bugs aren’t even consistent anymore. Auto fill takes 2 seconds to work, the launcher may or may not actually put the 1P app window on focus. Actively looking for alternatives now :/

@caseyliss @1password ouch. Really sorry to see that. I’m wondering why I haven’t had an issue.

I know it doesn’t help you but it got me wondering.

@caseyliss @1password it is an absolute shame what 1Password has become.

I forgive and even sympathize with the move away from native, but it simply doesn’t work 50% of the time for me. This used to be the first app I’d recommend to family and friends. Now I tell them to use iCloud Keychain. ☹️

@caseyliss @1password This hasn’t happened to me yet and I’m happy to be the unicorn right now I guess.
@caseyliss is this your pi-hole (rightfully) blocking something which prevents the whole thing from loading?
@caseyliss @1password happens to me all the time these days
@caseyliss @1password https://strongboxsafe.com join us! Strongbox is a fully native macOS app. It integrates with keychain autofill.
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@so Interesting. Is there a story for Chrome and Edge? I use these (Mac Safari just doesn’t do it for me). But I like the way the iOS app looks, so I’m interested!
@dgp Browser extensions were added last year for Chromium and Firefox. They work like the old 1Password extension, and connect to the desktop app.
@so So, it took me 3 months to get the time to do this, but I've just converted over to this and I already love it! Even my Android tablet was easy to get running with a compatible client. Going to be paying for their paid option which ... supports family sharing?!? IMAGINE THAT! I'm super excited to set up a shared database for my family next!
@caseyliss I moved to StrongBox for Mac and iOS and don’t regret it. The UI leaves a little bit to be desired, IMHO, but it works very well.
@caseyliss @1password FWIW: mine did this and I disabled the extension, removed the extension app (a new thing if you're on v8), restarted, then reinstalled the app and extension and it's been fine ever since. Seems like a giant PITA to do but at least I only had to do it once. (I tend toward overkill since I am IT.)
@caseyliss @1password it’s so frustrating! How do we trust this app to hold our sensitive info?
@caseyliss @1password. I had this problem shortly after upgrading to V8. What is weird is that it just magically went away after a while. No idea what happened or why. Strange, to say the least.
@caseyliss came for the alt text and wasn’t disappointed

@caseyliss @1password

Happes to me every day for the past several weeks. I’m 95% ready to switch to another solution. Such a shame. Have been 1Password user for many years.

@caseyliss It's SO BAD now. This happens to me frequently, and the only workaround I’ve found is a restart of both 1Password and Safari...and sometimes THAT doesn't even fix it!
@caseyliss I've been wondering if I can move back to @1password 7 - I mean, it's still available in the App store. 🤷🏻 [edit] To be clear, I *love* 1Password - I've been using it since V2, I just want it to be better.
@caseyliss autofill also fails for me often. Sometimes the click on the 1p-textfield-icon fails and command-\ works or vice versa. I don't know what's going on. Maybe it's a "DOM ready” kind of problem of the extension.
@caseyliss I complained to 1Password support about this, they suggested that restarting all the apps is a perfectly valid solution... I feel like it's caused by large vaults, some race condition, really wish they would take more pride in their product and really work on solving this. It's not a new problem.
@caseyliss I have been having weirdness also and followed the directions in this post and it started working again - hopefully it stays that way. https://1password.community/discussion/139005/safari-extension-shows-open-1password-but-button-does-not-work
Safari Extension Shows "Open 1Password" But Button Does Not Work

Recently, clicking the button in Safari shows me the popover and the button to 'Open 1Password' (the 1PW app is open and unlocked, BTW) but clicking it shows a very brief spinner and then the button again.

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@caseyliss Is the browser extension still necessary given that they have whole computer auto fill?
@caseyliss I suppose you might lose the cc auto fill feature…
@caseyliss I have had so many issues with 1Password lately, some seem like they’re caused by Safari autofill overlapping intent with the extension, but most aren’t. If you find any solutions please post!
@caseyliss they changed something recently where I have to restart Safari often to keep auto fill working
@caseyliss I ended up having to disable the link between 1password and the extension. It works better now but I need to login with my master passcode way more often. @1password

@caseyliss I have an intel mac issued for work and the extension hasn't worked with safari since 1Password 8 came out. I now use Edge on that computer and it works about 75% of the time.

On my person M1 Macbook Pro it works about 50% of the time and I refuse to install another brower.

i'm about this close | | to just saying screw it and put everything in Passwords by Apple.

@caseyliss Is there any actual alternative to 1P? BitWarden seems like it might be it, but i hate the gui. it's so "cross platform" and non mac native.
@caseyliss I refuse to install a version of @1password that’s not in the App Store. I’m already annoyed the nerfed local syncing. If they force me out of the App Store, I’ll be considering other solutions.
@caseyliss I’m this close to spending half a day migrating to iCloud passwords.
@stuart @caseyliss it was not as bad of a migration as i thought! i keep 1Password 7 around for the items that aren't website passwords, praying Apple expands to that area soon.
@stuart @caseyliss There is a CSV export/import to move between 1Password and Apple Passwords. Won't help with notes and the like.
@stuart shared passwords with my wife and older kids are the only thing keeping me on 1p at this point. It was a good decade.
@caseyliss I'm glad I have a copy of the 1password7 installer on one of my PCs
@caseyliss 100% this. I was a huge lover of 1pass but now is super annoying every single day.
@alexito4 @caseyliss Sounds like preemptively fleeing after their last round of funding may have been a good call on my part. BitWarden has a bad UI but at least it’s reliable.
@caseyliss Ever since the move to v8 my heart has been rather sad. So many annoyances. When I can move I will. Bring on Apple’s standalone app.
@caseyliss I had to drop 1Password because of 8. And their response to emails and tweets was basically “Well, tough. Deal with it.”
@caseyliss not sure where yet but want to move.
@caseyliss As a long time 1PW evangelist, 1PW8 is fucking brutal.
@caseyliss still running 1Password 7 here.
@caseyliss I've been dealing with a bug in the iOS version where I'll go to edit the password for an account, but it brings up the edit screen for an entirely different account. This has happened several times.
@trey @caseyliss damn. I thought that was just me!
@trey @caseyliss Every goddamn time! And when you cancel it warns about discarding changes, terrified that with one accidental tap it’s going to overwrite the one I opened with what it showed. I’d ditch it for Keychain if not for the syncing to Windows I need for work
@caseyliss I've lost count of the number of times the Safari extension failed to load on my machine, too.
@caseyliss I gotta disagree it has been much more stable for me on my Macs
@samcat116 @caseyliss maybe it’s a Ventura thing?
@caseyliss I'm all in on Apple’s password manager. It doesn’t do everything I want, but I'm confident it’s going to get better over time, unlike 1P.

@BenRiceM That's the rub, ain't it?

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