lol, a way to bypass the Microsoft account requirement in Windows 11 - type username [email protected], any password, and it bumps you to local account creation.
GRC | InControl  

InControl - Disable Windows automatic updates and upgrades

@jwatts @GossiTheDog After working with machines that have touched GRCs software I now outright consider it malware.

In this case, many security updates are brought in as preparation for a major feature release. What he says on his website is patently false (A lot of people don't get feature updates because of known and discovered issues) and how it does it is through undocumented regkeys, not group policy (as it should be done).

@indrora @jwatts @GossiTheDog I hate that the weird concern noise about feature update packages have prompted "I pirated Windows XP"-era update paranoia from people again.
@indrora @jwatts @GossiTheDog also it feels kinda unrelated, as this appears to be windows OOBE which is run before you have any chance of installing any 3rd party software (minus drivers)
@jwatts @GossiTheDog I also highly recommend Steveโ€™s latest SpinRite.
@GossiTheDog Did Windows 11 remove the option to skip over using a Microsoft account on the dialog prior to the add your Microsoft account dialog that Windows 10 had?
@EvilKiru @GossiTheDog
Yes, they did. Now you need to try logging in as a nonexistent account to get around it. But they will never rest until they trick you into turning on the rich flow of customer data and force you into entering their sales funnel. Get out that credit card!
@segv11 @EvilKiru @GossiTheDog Disconnecting from the Internet before installation worked for me, it jumps to local account creation. Idk if this still works for win 11 tho, haven't tried.
@tagomago @segv11 @EvilKiru @GossiTheDog it now asks you to connect to the internet to continue installation, unfortunately
@blobcat @GossiTheDog @EvilKiru @segv11 Yikes... pretty extreme. I guess some orgs will keep on truckinโ€™ XP...
@tagomago @blobcat @EvilKiru @segv11 You can "just" select "join AD" in the installer as AD requires a local admin account prior joining so that's the way you officially get an offline account. You never actually need to follow through with the AD join then
@ljrk @tagomago @blobcat @EvilKiru Great tip, but not on Home edition though! And Enterprise Edition is way better and less obnoxious, but it's also unobtanium for home use.

@segv11 @tagomago @blobcat @EvilKiru Ah, that's probably true yeah. I only ever use Windows in VMs for offsec stuff or company mandated things so I either just use the trial or have an Enterprise license :'-)

All other systems run Linux or some variant of UNIX for a long time already.

@EvilKiru @GossiTheDog They removed it in Windows 10 for home versions a couple years back...
@EvilKiru @GossiTheDog
yep, even for Win11 Pro. You need to use Enterprise to create a local account AFAIK
@DeltaLima @EvilKiru @GossiTheDog The wrong credentials trick still worked as of last Friday. I wonder how long thatโ€™s going to work, and after that when (if?) the EU forces them to provide an option for local accounts without having to sign in first.
@EvilKiru @GossiTheDog Later versions of Windows 10 eliminated the option, you have to unplug/disconnect your network before you get to that step in order to be able to create a local account.
@GossiTheDog I like to think it's performing a politeness check and rewarding you for the "thank you".
@GossiTheDog That sounds... intentional.
@WhyNotZoidberg @GossiTheDog I wonder what executable that's in.
@WhyNotZoidberg @GossiTheDog it sounds like a qa bypass that made it to prod
@GossiTheDog used it recently, can confirm it works.
@GossiTheDog I got past it last week by getting to the screen requesting it, pressing shift+f10 to bring up a command prompt, then doing a dhcp release (ipconfig /release), followed by hitting the back arrow. I was then able to create a local account.
@fellows @GossiTheDog this is not how computers should work....
@eselet @GossiTheDog I sometimes like to imagine that a computer is a fresh piece of canvas ready to have creativity poured all over it. Sometimes people literally try to get creative with $hit because art is subjective and well theyโ€™re artists and know best. I think some large companies like to operate this way with their โ€œcreativeโ€ efforts.
@eselet @fellows @GossiTheDog You seem to have the mistaken impression that it is YOUR computer. If you have Windows on it, it is Microsoft's computer, any payment(s) you have made notwithstanding.
@brouhaha @eselet @GossiTheDog I donโ€™t know if any of you guys have watched โ€œFor All Mankindโ€ on AppleTV+ but the premise behind the show is that it takes place in an alternate reality where the Russians landed on the moon first. Thus changing the trajectory of the space race and all the developments that come with it. Wonder what would have happened if OS/2 Warp got the desktop market first? Would IBM have been a better steward?
@fellows @brouhaha @GossiTheDog I kind of doubt that too.... I guess Slackware or FreeBSD would be valid choices for purists with too much time on their hands :)
@fellows @brouhaha @eselet @GossiTheDog Probably. Until they got big enough. Then they'd start locking things away.

@fellows @brouhaha @eselet @GossiTheDog

I would think that IBM would have been even worse than Microsoft. Considering their โ€˜mid-life kickerโ€™ approach to mainframes for instance.

@GossiTheDog That or you can do shift + f10 then OOBE\BYPASSNRO (with internet off), but yeah I don't like the direction MS is headed in. Especially when studies suggest more identifiers are sent with telemetry logged in than with a local account.

@starchturrets
@GossiTheDog

love seeing the mention of shift-F10 to get the prompt, since I had to look that up this week to get the used Thinkpad I bought to do a proper, complete shutdown (ie, not to send me back into Windows via fast boot, but rather to allow me to pick the USB drive with the bootable "live" image)

@GossiTheDog a little bizarre considering Microsoft don't even own thankyou.com
@JaxxAI @GossiTheDog nothing to do with the domain. You can register a MS account with your own email address, that's what that is. [email protected] is also (not) working and blocked now, so the account tool is skipping because of the blocked account error and let's you create an offline account as a fallback. But very annoying they again removed the option to do that ina regular way without having to use such measures.

@GossiTheDog it's incredibly infuriating if you were unaware of this little bypass.

About an hour and a half yelling about the bastards at Microsoft until I found a forum post for someone mentioning that trick lol.

Technology is moving in reverse.

@GossiTheDog I think the dark pattern they use is, you enter any random email, click next, the click Back, then they show you local account options. This though is just taking the pi**...
@GossiTheDog And I went miles to go audit mode and sysprep when it would have been soo easyโ€ฆ
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@GossiTheDog [email protected] also works - a work & private MS account exists for it, and it's perpetually locked.
@GossiTheDog i usually did this with some random email like [email protected], shows you "oops, your account is locked" and allows you to create a local account instead
@ptrc @GossiTheDog [email protected], enter an invalid password, just lets you through.

@GossiTheDog

I don't think you actually have to type an "email address" you could just type a username or something and it works.

At least it worked for me when I did it. :)

(IDK if they changed it by now but I hope not!)

@GossiTheDog does "[email protected]" work similarly?

the "invalid" TLD is well, invalid. there can't possibly be a domain with the "invalid" TLD because someone said so (basically).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.invalid

suggesting this because thankyou.com is under a TLD that exists (and is also a domain that exists), and probably like asdf.com, opening up it's emails is just a big mistake (https://asdf.com/asdfemail.html).

.invalid - Wikipedia

@GossiTheDog I don't want to be those fools that fight against change but win11 is shit in my eyes and I will avoid upgrading unless absolutely necessary
@drakealexe @GossiTheDog I have no desire to switch to 11 and have never tried to, yet Windows continues to make a point of telling me that computer does not the requirements for upgrading. I know it doesn't and I don't it to, so stop acting like I do, Windows

@drakealexe @GossiTheDog

What pisses me off most is that I MIGHT expect this behavior if someone didn't buy the OS. And simply took the upgrade from MS. Nothing on the planet is free. So you get what you pay for. But when I buy a damn license that is a Pro no less. Then I should have full control over what I install and what telemetry they send home. I payed for it. I should control it. Period. End of story. This goes for 10 and 11.

@GossiTheDog Is this for the Home edition? I just loaded a fresh Windows 11 Pro and avoided it by choosing the domain join path and never joining the domain.
@GossiTheDog or you could try Linux mint (or fedora, or mx Linux; I use fedora) and NOT train the AI m$ is gonna replace you with
@GossiTheDog
I've been using this to setup new devices at work for a couple months, works every time!

@GossiTheDog or just install it with no network & internet connectivity.

Or just don't use #Windows11 in the first place.

You should not have to do this.

You should not have to do this.

You should not have to do this.

You should not have to do this.

You should not have to do this.

@GossiTheDog

@topher @GossiTheDog you don't. Linux/Windows 10 exist.

@GossiTheDog allegedly a fresh install of Windows 11 immediately connects to scorecardresearch[dot]com which is tracking and marketing company. Iโ€™d rather just not have Windows 11 at all.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/1117juz/ysk_windows_11_sends_telemetry_data_straight_to/

YSK: Windows 11 sends telemetry data straight to third parties on install.

Why YSK: Companies exploit regular users for money by collecting and selling personal data. Personal data is being sent straight to third...

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