TindraSorry WHAT???
We Can Be Gyros@TindrasGrove everyone change their name to George Santos. Eff these ppl
🅱🅻🆄🅴🅱️@TindrasGrove I mean... Duh... They calculate that AI is going to give them a war ship no one can touch and they are mostly right. The future is built on the corpse of the past.
To be clear I do not condone this neo colonialism. I want to see a world that cares about people. I grew up with Star Trek and open source. This current meta hurts my heart.
Erik@TindrasGrove @hacks4pancakes I’m guessing they’re referring to data surveillance partnerships - as opposed to some form of hacking. Think integrations with Malwarebytes or Sophos, tools that people and companies use that already scan all documents.
This doesn’t make it better, just not the same as hacking firewalls. Scary either way.
Lesley Carhart 
@emc @TindrasGrove hiding behind lawyers and doing unscrupulous business stuff is honestly worse.
Kent PitmanNot just ethics but law.
Even just using public data, it's a copyright lawsuit waiting to happen. But dipping into private data must surely create even better opportunities to disassemble such unscrupulous endeavors to the last brick.
It's questionable whether AI is good for society even if used in the ways one can narrowly suggest are good. I think our unemployment levels will skyrocket and we don't have a good enough understanding of the need for UBI.
But the idea of turning such tech to "hacking" raises the threat stakes and brings liability into sharp focus. We need a good strong liability suit, if not a criminal trial, to set the deep pockets makers of these things to pondering why they want to go down this rathole at all.
I think it was generally a bad thing that the DMCA moved toward criminalizing copyright violation. It should have remained a civil matter. It was all about slinging power around. But if there are going to be criminal laws against using works you don't have permission for, this would be a great place to see those teeth exercised for some social good.
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En3pY - Sebastian Zdrojewski@TindrasGrove why am I not surprised?
And for the record, any webserver administrator might notice what's going on just by doing some analytics on the logs.
And for the record, any webserver administrator might notice what's going on just by doing some analytics on the logs.
Schroedinger@TindrasGrove I mean that is brave - to admit to a crime of that scale online.
I guess all of us in security need to be just that bit more aware. And stop them.
WIth a very big "FUCK OFF AI" sign.
Sue is Walking the Earth 🌱@TindrasGrove They're just going to be brazen and steal all the things. https://gaffen.co.uk/posts/ai-ip-theft-and-the-death-of-creativity/
HawkWolf@TindrasGrove what's the surprise? your data is being sold left and right all the time. There's no hacking involved, unless you call 'paying under the table' 'hacking'.
LibertyBeta@TindrasGrove Yeah, got some corpo grade icebreakers to do that shit, looks like a shark.
Light making@TindrasGrove this is surely an admission of guilt for violating the DMCA?
Robert Atkins@TindrasGrove Jesus Christ, where do they say, or even *intimate* they’re talking about *hacking* through the firewalls? They’re talking about being invited into corporate networks by the owners thereof. Is this not obvious? Do you really characterise these people as moustache-twirling cartoon supervillains who are *also* so stupid as to confess to crimes in advance?
ShachihokoWhat, do these people actively want the Master Control Program taking over their mainframe from the inside? Did they not watch the rest of the movie to see how well that turned out?
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(ʘ‿ʘ)@TindrasGrove @randomgeek what if big tech is already doing this
Random Geek in limbo@nosherwan @TindrasGrove No doubt some are, primarily with our private data on their side of the firewall.
Grabbing our private data that someone else has staked a claim on seems less likely, but I am not of the big tech mindset. I don't even like the case I'm assuming to be true.
ኢራ עירא Ira عيرا 🍓🎗️@TindrasGrove Donno what the context is, but I hope he is joking. There's no sense in looking for training materials at such a high cost, unless you are hacking a museum art archive or something. I can't expect to find much useful training materials this way.
Raven Onthill@TindrasGrove that is what is technically called a “crime.” WtF?
George@TindrasGrove yeah, that stuff is not gonna lead to AI training, it's gonna lead to jail
mirabilos@TindrasGrove it’s not like they honour the licences of the published data either…