I learned the history of "Tater Tots" today (after midnight, counts) with @juliewebgirl.

TL;DR - Invented in the Pacific Northwest by a company called Ore-Ida, a concatenation of "Oregon" and "Idaho", in Ontario, Or. The owners were figuring out what to do with potato slivers from other parts of their process. Adding flour and seasonings and frying them, the Tot was born. Tah-Dah!

Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tater_tots

Ore-Ida Themselves: https://www.oreida.com/product/00013120085666

#TaterTots #Food #History #Noms

Tater tots - Wikipedia

@elfin @juliewebgirl And then Taco Time added extra salt and christened them "MEXI FRIES"

@spacehobo @juliewebgirl Yup.

Julie clued me in on Taco Time's history as well (they're actually a restaurant, not Taco Bell).

@elfin @juliewebgirl Well, they're not that far beyond taco bell in terms of quality of food. In the 80s, you really had to hunt to find even passable Mexican food in Seattle, but all the Angelenos who moved there in the 70s dragged some up with them if you knew where to look.

@spacehobo @juliewebgirl Ignoring the really good Taco Trucks around, I've banaged to find some really good places (White Center has much good Mexican), but I've only lived here a decade.

I'm surprised that it took that long for good Mex to move up the coast, especially with Seattle being a Foodie Town and ethnic foodie at that, as long as I've lived close to the Pacific Ocean.

@elfin @juliewebgirl Seafood kind of led that, really. It was definitely a place for gourmet fish in the 70s and 80s, but there's always that regional cuisine that takes a while to get the details right, like burritos or bagels.
@elfin @spacehobo
*deep breath*
Ok. So.
1990 ish... Massive Californians moved up here. (Thanks Bill.) Bought a new thing dubbed the McMansion, bringing their SUVs with them. Said Street of Dreams™ houses had huge swaths of mono-crops ie grass lawns. HOAs declared those must be maintained... It was the lure of easy money... Sorry no, not the white stuff, the green stuff... and your Mexican brothers moved up en masse to care for lawns and build houses. THEN good Mexican food.
@juliewebgirl @elfin The WWI-era home I grew up in with the wide yard was bulldozed in the 2000s to build a double-wide snouthouse without a front door.
@spacehobo @elfin What's a snouthouse?
@juliewebgirl @elfin A house with a garage in front instead of hidden off to the side or behind like the shame it should be.
@spacehobo @elfin Ohhh. Like every house in America that has a garage? Good name for them.
@juliewebgirl @elfin Nah, some older ones have carports on the side, or driveways leading to the garage in the back garden. But a snouthouse just replaces the front door with a front garage, and usually fails The Trick-or-Treat Test.
@spacehobo @elfin Wait, no front door?? Or front door off to the side of the garage still facing the street?
@juliewebgirl @elfin Sometimes none at all, but often just a side or back door, because the designers are motorbrained and assume nobody would ever walk off the property.
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@elfin
Ok now that's just weird. I've never seen one without a front facing door 😳

@spacehobo @juliewebgirl Catching up here.

Snouthouses. Huge in the 50s, and across the Grand American Midwest (throws up a little in mouth).

They're called "Snout Houses" because the garage looks like a pig's snout. There are lots of designs, duplexes, multi story uinits, but I found one like Space Hobo is describing. Lack of front door, the architect should be shot.

This one is in Seattle, 1,900SqFt, $420,000 (because, Seattle), 8mi south of downtown, built in 2016.

Goddamned Travesty.

@elfin @spacehobo @juliewebgirl

double width front door
SUVs feel right at home
servants to the rear

#poetry #smallpoems
#knowYourPlace

@w0dz @elfin @spacehobo
jokers to the left of me
jokers to the right
Here I am
Stuck in suburbia hell

#lyrics #notreallypoetry

Stealers Wheel ~ Stuck In The Middle With You (1972)

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@elfin @w0dz @spacehobo
Let's just leave clowns out of this. They have their own special hell.
@juliewebgirl @w0dz @spacehobo Literally nothing I can say in reply will Not get me in trouble.
Except ...
EOL
@elfin @w0dz @spacehobo The early 70's doesn't get enough attention IMO. "The 70's" doesn't really include the early or for that matter the late/disco 70's. And no, this time, I'm actually not even talking about Elton.
@juliewebgirl @elfin @w0dz Well, The Sixties runs from the assassination of JFK to the Watergate scandal, if you ask me. The Seventies runs from there to the shooting of Reagan, so it includes the early-80s disco era.

@spacehobo @juliewebgirl @w0dz

*Blink Blink* You're not talking about Elton?

Ok...Raises Hand, I consider lateseventies and early, Early 80s "Disco".

Please don't make me call my 68 year old mother on this or we'll be up all damned night (all of us...ALL OF US!) 'arguing' Genisis, and Elton and the finer points of Pink Floyd vs Simon and Garfunkle (and on and on &c.).

No. Bad.

@elfin @spacehobo @w0dz

1979...Disco.
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/PV45rpm/billboard_top_40_songs_1979/
Saturday night fever.. Need I say more?
Even Elton tried disco 🤦

1980...New wave and accompanying straight leg jeans. Think Billy Joel:

"Next phase, new wave,
dance craze, anyways,
it's still rock 'n' roll to me"

Now .. early 70's... https://rateyourmusic.com/list/PV45rpm/billboard-top-40-songs-1972-1/
It has a definite vibe. I think I'm going to compile an early 70's playlist.

Simon & Garfunkel were 60's. Period.

https://youtu.be/5eAQa4MOGkE

BILLBOARD TOP 40 SONGS 1979 - RYM/Sonemic

[b][i]The most selling singles of the year on the USA, according to Billboard Magazine.[/b][/i] [b][i][color green]#With the highest chart position achieved by every song on the Billboard Hot 100.[/b][/i][/color] [b][i]Las canciones más populares del año según la revista Billboard en Estados Unidos.[/b][/i] [b][i][color green]#Se incluye la posición más alta alcanzada por cada canción en la lista Billboard Hot 100.[/b][/i][/color]

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@juliewebgirl @elfin @spacehobo
leave you mom out of it. I was there. Uriah Heep. Tangerine Dream. Supertramp. Yes. Fruup. Horslips. Groundhogs. Led Zeppelin. Fleetwood Mac. Greenslade. Black Sabbath. Spiders from Mars. I remember carrying the speakers, testing the mics. But no disco.
@juliewebgirl @elfin @w0dz Elton was part of the 1970s attempt at a 50s revival, and I think either you looked to that or Art Nouveau back then. Everything cycled in neat generational gaps. THE WHEEL OF RETRO.

@elfin @juliewebgirl @w0dz Yeah, disco was late 1970s and very earliest 1980s. But "The Seventies" is a mood, not a number on the calendar. And I say it's from Watergate to Reagan actually being able to destroy the US after he got shot.

Watergate and Dark Side of the Moon were about the same time, and DSOTM was a definite departure from 1960s rock and defined the genre from then on. People laugh when they hear what was called "Rock and Roll" before then, these days. Sort of like how people will laugh and say "What? Talking Heads isn't *punk*!!!" despite the history.

@elfin @spacehobo @w0dz

Didn't last long did it? (The not talking about Elton part) 🤣

@elfin @spacehobo Ok first off, I've never seen anything like this before. Ugly af.

ALTHOUGH... I don't care what other people think looks good...

AND... Having grown up in a house that was on a nice chunk of property yet was still kinda close to the road, the closest wall being a big picture window of the living room...

I very much like the privacy of the front here.

Granted, I can't stretch my arms out between the 2 houses and there is no privacy in the back yard.

@juliewebgirl @spacehobo So, exactly how I was describing the for boxes on South Lake Sammamish when we were on the phone earlier. :P

@juliewebgirl @spacehobo It Super Fails the Halloween Test.

UNLESS, some silly dork besides to invest their entire front lawn into a Halloween extravaganza for the kids. it doesn't happen very often but it's kind of funny when it does.

@elfin @spacehobo So the garage facing the street and back yard facing the water. I'm... Surprisingly ok with this. 🤔

@elfin @juliewebgirl https://youtu.be/PmGyACG5K0E?t=56

EXTRA SUGAR!
EXTRA SALT!
EXTRA OIL AND MSG!!!!

Cibo Matto - Birthday Cake [1997]

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@spacehobo @juliewebgirl I always like Jolt Cola's marketing line: "All the sugar, Twice the caffeine."

@elfin @spacehobo
Except when someone *ahem* (not me) didn't have proper measuring spoons so somebody else *ahem* (me) decided to wing it on the aus ju mix and we both woke up with what I can only assume was some level of edema. I've NEVER ... and I've ground salt straight into my mouth befo... Oh wait... It was pink sea salt. Ahaaaaa...

Mystery solved.

@juliewebgirl @elfin I use "LO SALT" (45% NaCl, 45% KCl, 10% MgCl) for sauces and broths, and posh Welsh sea-salt flakes as topping. Sodium in modern diets is slowly poisoning the heart, and you need to top your potassium back up and drink water to flush out the metals you ingest.

@spacehobo @juliewebgirl Well, if you spell "water" like "tea" I'd say we each easily plow 2+ liters per day.

I've had the low-salt. It's not bad. Unsure about using it for sauces. I'd have to play with that for a while before being confident with it as an ingredient.

@elfin @juliewebgirl Well, you should probably take potassium supplements then if you can't fix your salt intake.
@spacehobo @juliewebgirl I could definitely do better in the potassium space.
@spacehobo @elfin Not everybody. #hypotension Also, pink salt is not the bleached white crap in processed foods that needs to be eliminated. Fun fact: my mom started using pink sea salt instead of white table salt and her BP went DOWN. #OtherMinerals I'm also going to disagree about water flushing out metals. They need something to bind to to carry them out, but yeah, heavy metals are killing us.
@spacehobo @elfin Well the PNW, where they were born, is brimming with Scandinavians so that's not surprising... SaltRUs
@juliewebgirl @elfin I'm kind of astonished to hear from relatives that Ballard is no longer a Scandi OAP community. It's probably also no longer a Sundown Town so probably worth it.

@spacehobo @elfin
This is how I explained #Ballard to @elfin when he moved here.

https://youtu.be/KBgIvH0tu6Y

Ballard Driving Academy - Almost Live

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@juliewebgirl @elfin John Keister was an Institution when I lived there.
@spacehobo @elfin Yep. And people are all oooh and ahhh over Bill Nye the Science Guy but I just can't get Speed Walker out of my head with the way too thin white shorts. I miss that show. My son, master of clever Halloween costumes, dressed up as Billy Quan a couple years back with both feet up in the air. It was hilarious.
@juliewebgirl @elfin Nye hit on a friend of mine in the 90s. Bill was cycling around Greenlake, and she was jogging. She brushed him off at first but then realised who he was and couldn't keep from laughing in his face.
@spacehobo @elfin Oh that's a fun story to tell at parties.