Checking out @ivory!

@Gargron @ivory

Please no!

Please don't spread proprietary apps on Mastodon. This will be the downfall. We'll just have another tw*tter.

#SaveMastodon

@jebba @Gargron @ivory

How do you see this as proprietary? It uses the same #API like all others, i guess?

I can't test, it is #iOS only.

@nick @Gargron @ivory

As far as I can tell, there is no source code availability, nor ability to share the code, for example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software

Free software - Wikipedia

@jebba @nick @Gargron @ivory Unfortunately, people still need to be able to make money to fund development of good software, and releasing the source code for a user-facing app is pretty detrimental to your ability to make any money.

@WAHa_06x36 @nick @Gargron @ivory

Is it about making money then? Just that?

To me, the goal of a small "d" democratic Mastodon is far more important than some cute proprietary app that isn't needed to use the service.

There are plenty of people that have shown you can make money doing open source, if that is what is important.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_models_for_open-source_software

Business models for open-source software - Wikipedia

@jebba @nick @Gargron @ivory You need money to survive in modern society. It has to come from somewhere. If you want people to actually put their efforts into making good software, you have to pay them, or they will either starve or stop doing it.

And no open-source business model applies to user-facing apps. You can make money off complicated server software where you can sell support contracts and similar. But you can't do that for an app for users.

@jebba None of those work for user-facing apps. I've written and released big software both as open source and commercially, so I am talking from quite a fair bit of experience here.

@WAHa_06x36

What software?

Another High Priority Project done: The Unarchiver provides free RARv3 extraction tools — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

@WAHa_06x36

Then I guess we're just fucked again.

Dammit.

@jebba Absolutely not. There's nothing evil about commercial software, this is an ideological fallacy.

There's plenty of evil software companies, but that is because capitalism is evil, not that charging for software is.

@WAHa_06x36

I never said charging for software is bad.

As someone that did an FSF project, you know that Free Software is about user freedom, not about price. People often charge for free software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software

Free software - Wikipedia