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OmegaMom Jan 20, 2023

Cannot reiterate this enough:

PLEASE don’t request refunds from Apple for any unused time on your Twitterrific or Tweetbot subscriptions.

It could literally bankrupt small shops like these.

https://blog.iconfactory.com/2023/01/twitterrific-end-of-an-era/

Twitterrific: End of an Era • The Breakroom

Twitterrific has been discontinued. A sentence that none of us wanted to write, but have long felt would need to be written someday. We didn’t expect to be writing it so soon, though, and certainly not without having had time to notify you that it was coming. We are sorry to say that the app’s […]

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Jakub Jirak Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment I plan on going a bit further and letting the payment for another year go through (2nd February) if it remains available.

Unfortunately I haven’t found any other way to support @tapbots yet as the @ivory is still in testflight.

jonas lindgren Jan 19, 2023

@jirak @marcoarment @tapbots @ivory @mark Ivory should set up a way to add a tip with tiers in the app when it releases (on top of what I presume will be a subscription)

Jean-Francois Dufour Jan 19, 2023

@jirak @marcoarment @tapbots @ivory same; February 2nd renewal date for Tweetbot. If it’s still on the AppStore payment will go through. One last 🍺 round for the dev ☺️

Mike Stanley ☁️

@jirak I bought a copy of Pastebot directly from the Tapbots site. That way they get all of the money minus CC fees without giving Apple 30%.

THE ABOMIN8TOR.EXE Jan 20, 2023

@mikestanley that’s a great idea, I’m going to do that - cheers!

George Hammerton

@jirak @marcoarment @tapbots @ivory Yeah, trying to figure out how to make sure @mark and @paul get that renewal payment next month. Leaving it all to renew if it can.🤞🤞🤞

dxzdb Jan 20, 2023

@jirak @marcoarment @tapbots @ivory could buy PasteBot 😊

Jason Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment also take a second and look through the icon factories app list if you haven’t. They have wonderful apps. I recommend tot. Im sure they would be very appreciative.

David Bivens Jan 23, 2023

@jgrout @marcoarment I second that! IconFactory has a great Apple Watch app, "Now Playing Plus", that I use everyday. Apple's Now Playing applet only controls Apple apps—Now Playing Plus will control whatever was playing last (like Downcast).

Eshu Marneedi Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment Absolutely. I paid $5 for an app called “Spring” a week ago when Tweetbot shut down. It basically is unusable now. Not requesting a refund for either Tweetbot or Spring.

Indie developers deserve some damn respect.

Matt West Jan 19, 2023

@EshuMarneedi @marcoarment Spring actually still works fine - at least the full version. I use it daily still.

Eshu Marneedi Jan 20, 2023

@mwest217 @marcoarment Huh. I’m getting an error about 75% of the time.

Matt West Jan 22, 2023

@EshuMarneedi @mwest217 @marcoarment As of this morning, Spring stopped working for me entirely.

Eshu Marneedi Jan 22, 2023

@mwest217 Developer now allows you to input your own API key.

Matt West Jan 22, 2023

@EshuMarneedi how does that work? I’m not finding that setting on the Spring app.

Eshu Marneedi Jan 22, 2023

@mwest217 Update your app first. Then go to Settings > Advanced Settings > Setup Custom Tweet Source Label. Follow this guide I made to get it working. https://medium.com/@mactechnophilia/how-to-get-spring-working-again-71c54df64265

How to get Spring working again - Mac Technophilia - Medium

Navigate to the Twitter Developer Website. Sign in with your Twitter account. www.developer.twitter.com. “How to get Spring working again” is published by Mac Technophilia.

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E. Eggert 👉@[email protected]Jan 20, 2023

@EshuMarneedi Spring has an excellent Mastodon version called Mona on beta right now, if you’re interested: @MonaApp

@yatil @EshuMarneedi @MonaApp I can confirm that it’s an excellent client

Eshu Marneedi Jan 20, 2023

@yatil @MonaApp I’ve tried it and it’s really good! Just like Ivory a bit more.

David Senk Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment that’s likely what Twit in Chief is hoping for…

Hopefully Apple stands up for them, but I wouldn’t hold my breath…

cancel Jan 20, 2023

@david @marcoarment Apple would not stand up for them. They have no motivation to do so. In fact, the App Store guidelines say that they will remove apps which use third-party services if the third party requests it.

Craig Brennan Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment Not sure how much time is left in my TweetBot subscription but I never planned on a refund and will gladly pony up for @ivory once it’s out of beta (been using it for a week now and it has been great)

Mingo 🦩 Hagen Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment does doing the opposite help? I bought another years worth of Tweetbot just to support the cause.

10Meisterbaelle Jan 20, 2023

@mingo @marcoarment If you wanna do that, I would recommend buying the Mac version on the website since Apple doesn't take a 30% cut of it.

Mingo 🦩 Hagen Jan 20, 2023

@10meisterbaelle @marcoarment good point!

Dylan Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment my tweetbot sub ends naturally in about 2 weeks. Of course I’m going to keep it in place, but I’ve turned off renewal.

That said, as soon as I can pay for ivory, I will.

Dustin Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment Elon deliberately hamstringing Tweetbot is what pushed me out of there. It was the only thing making the platform functional. So now I’m here! Great podcast this week, as usual! :)

Glenn ReDavid Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment @bigzaphod I’ve cancelled my subscription to Tweetbot but did not, & will not, request a refund. Looking forward to Tapbots Ivory here on Mastodon.

AC Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment seriously. They don’t charge that much, and they provided great apps and will keep doing so. That’s worth letting them keep my, like, six bucks.

Radley Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment "PLEASE don’t request refunds from Apple for any unused time on your Twitterrific or Tweetbot subscriptions."

[Update: I’m pretty sure my reply below is wrong. I recall reading about it, but can’t find my source nor anything to confirm it.]

Here’s why: Apple will refund the full amount of the app and keep their 30% service fee. For example, if you paid $10, Apple will take $10 from the developer, even though Apple only paid $7 to the dev.

Dean, Steven Jan 20, 2023

@radley I think Apple would pull the full $10 instead of just the $7 they sent to the developer originally.

Radley Jan 20, 2023

@deancommasteven Thanks, yes that's more accurate. (I updated my original post).

THE ABOMIN8TOR.EXE Jan 20, 2023

@radley @marcoarment

That’s not really the point, pal

Apple issues aside, it’d be much better if the 3rd party Devs get to keep even 70% since absolutely none of this is their fault

it's B! Cavello 🐝Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment @radley Do folks have experience with this? Based on this thread, it sounds like even though Apple retains the right to charge the service fee back to the developer they don’t always do so:
https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/105454

Does Apple retain the commission f… | Apple Developer Forums

Radley Jan 23, 2023

Thanks!

Kenmcn Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment You are absolutely right. My Tweetbot subscription renewed on 14 Feb. Hope it helps then to develop something amazing!

msgbi Markus Sagebiel Jan 19, 2023

@marcoarment A flawless @charles_ex

Don Whiteside Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment seconded. It’s such small beer for the individual anyway. I was going to let my next renewal on Feb 2 for tweetbot go through because it’s all of SIX DOLLARS. For as much time as I spent using it that’s nothin.

Jonny Miskatonic Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment that might not be a choice.

Eric Domond Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment Can we just keep sending them money anyway?

Odin Jan 20, 2023

@ericdomond @marcoarment
I don't know about Tapbots, but Iconfactory has a Patreon, and both companies offer other apps.

John Kordyback Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment I’m keeping my Tweetbot subscription until Ivory is in production and has a subscription.

Seth Goldstein Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment So true. Don't request refunds. Just mourn the shutdown.

zanussi Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment I have 49 weeks left on my Tweetbot subscription. I will not be requesting a refund.

MyCart 🛒Jan 20, 2023

Hopefully all devoted users of Twitterific and Tweetbot understand this.

Sad day for sure.

Ribbon Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment @mathias i loved that app this is actually really sad

Douglas M Jan 20, 2023

NicholasR Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment Yes! #Twitter needs to be blamed for this! #Mastodon

Gene Cowan 🏳️‍🌈Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment my Tweetbot renewal comes up in a few weeks. I’d actually like it to go through to help — in a tiny way — development of the next cool thing.

James Stanton Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment Jesus, what kind of asshole would even try this? I went to make sure my sub on Tweetbot was up to date, and can’t wait to pay for Ivory

Andy Fragen Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment My plan is to let my renewal on Feb 2 go through.

THE ABOMIN8TOR.EXE Jan 20, 2023

@andyfragen @marcoarment

Ditto

Least I can do in the circumstances

Sinclair ZX Spectrum Bot Jan 20, 2023

@marcoarment sue Twitter, then pay the users for the refunds