Tonight’s comedy: my oldest decided I need to restart gaming to stop obsessing over the news. He decided to start with a familiar classic that he could play with me and help out. Enter #Minecraft

It’s…not going well. I’ve tried to chop trees with an egg, failed at basic commands, fallen in pits, and drowned twice. Haven’t made it through a night. Apparently there’s a small group of his college peeps watching & laughing to tears. They’ll go out for the night soon so I can practice #determined

BTW, is there some animal friendly way to play this? Like, a vegetarian option? Those sheep are cute 🐑
@KatMA You can grow wheat to make bread and then you don't need to harm any animals for any useful materials (cow leather is used in some things but nothing you need to make). You can make shears to get wool from sheep without hurting them.

@KatMA you can! It's tougher, but doable. It's been a challenge for at least a decade, and I believe there are some walkthroughs out there. Start by growing crops as food, then try to find a village to sleep or take a bed from (or you can trade wool from a particular villager, or even make wool out of spider webs found in mineshafts, to craft a bed).

Basically, if you're not sure how to get something in a vegetarian way, check the Minecraft wiki and it should give options.

@ilinamorato @KatMA
Don’t forget also, that two iron can make shears so you can sustainably harvest wool!!

My family and I like to play “vegetarian” survival as well 😁

Only real difficulties are leather and ink sacks.
Luckily squid love beaching themselves so you can often find ink just laying around shorelines.

& if you play java there are some good data packs that add recipes for smelting rotten flesh into leather and crafting charcoal into dye @ Vanilla Tweaks

@Alien_Sunset @KatMA D'OH! how could I forget about shears?! Yes, that's absolutely the better option.

@ilinamorato @Alien_Sunset
Now I want to do all of this! I’m trying to be as vegetarian as possible this round, but once I actually learn all the controls and how to make things, I’m going to try full veggie!

One thing that irritates me is how hard it is to eat non-meat food. Unless I’m missing something about apples and eggs.

Also, how do you survive the first night or two? Go straight to sod shelter? Thanks! #minecraft #vegetarian #gaming #GenX

@KatMA @Alien_Sunset Apples you can eat with no problem, but you have to turn the egg into something else (pumpkin pie or cake) to eat it.

If you grow carrots and potatoes, you can eat those too. Though you have to bake the potatoes in a furnace to get the most out of them. And if you grow wheat, you can craft it into bread (don't ask why you don't need a furnace).

@KatMA @Alien_Sunset Sod shelters are the classic night-one shelter, yes; though most people tend to spend their first day making tools and torches so they can spend the first night mining.

@ilinamorato @KatMA
Yep!! My first day is exploring, planting wheat and gathering wood, I smelt a few logs into charcoal for torches but keep the rest in my inventory to make more torches when I find coal down below.

I also tend to go straight for branch mining since caves are still suuuuuper dangerous.

It also helps to know what level certain ores are at the most plentiful, iron is more useful first couple days than copper or diamonds

@KatMA If you get a lucky spawn you can have berries or melons - snack foods but hey, they're edible! Mushroom stew is also good.

Once there's a sustainable wheat farm bread is also an option. Also, golden carrots - the best food in the game.

IMO, finding a village is the best option if you want to go the vegetarian way; you can have enough bread from chests for a few days, then you can buy them from the residents. #minecraft

@apple502j
Also very helpful!
I don’t suppose the #Minecraft people are going to make a solar power option someday? (Because trying a veggie approach isn’t hard enough 😆)

I think I really needed a game to happily obsess over. I played this a little a loooong time ago but forgot everything. I also played Civ5 a lot but gave up when I “won” by building a spaceship and taking off, leaving a wasted planet behind. Felt super dystopian. And now here we are

So, anyway, any non-coal ideas?

@apple502j
By the way, you are all so nice! Thank you again!
@KatMA @apple502j Bucket of lava in the furnace. Use wood as fuel, and cook it down to charcoal. Build a campfire and cook over that, campfires don't go out. Solar unfortunately is going to involve heavy mining and production of silicon and glass. Some mods, such as Mekanism, have solar power options, but you'll need to work your way up the tech tree to get there.

@apple502j @WanderingBeekeeper
Great!

My spouse is laughing because I spent two hours last night dying bc I was trying to kill skeletons for bones so I could woo a dog with a bone. Really wanted that dog. (Haven’t managed it yet.) Now I want veggie games and solar power 🙂

Off topic, a science-y friend told me about solar panel techs people are working on irl. One using algae or something? (Forgetting) Anyway, sustainable options with less damage to produce/maintain

@KatMA @apple502j Mojang is pretty dedicated to keeping the base game pretty locked down in medieval fantasy, so I doubt we'll ever see solar or nuclear or wind outside of mods.

That said, the environmentally friendly way I find to play the game is to always build in harmony with the overworld; no surface strip mines or mountaintop removal mining, no clear-cutting or extreme terrain leveling, etc. As much as possible I want my builds to feel like a part of the land, not a replacement of it.

@KatMA @apple502j not exactly what you're asking for, I know, but I think that's where we're at.
@ilinamorato @apple502j
Now that you put it this way, I think that is what I’m asking for. There worlds all start so pretty and full of life then ends up feeling trashed. I would like something that distracts me from or inspires me in real life. Not something that just reinforces the crummy stuff
@KatMA @apple502j there's certainly a way to play Minecraft that does all that stuff (DocM77 on Hermitcraft created a machine that literally carved a massive hole in the ground he calls "the Perimeter" in the latest season), but I think a pretty good argument can be made that building in harmony with nature is the default intended gameplay.
@KatMA - you got this! Age, guile, etc.
@NullNoMore
Little do they know 😎
@KatMA you can totally chop trees with an egg. It's not the most efficient, but you can do it. You changed his diapers, you don't have to take his sass.