@arossp Do these people like Musk just not care what they say? Whatever happened to a man's word being his bond? Of saying what you mean and meaning what you say? I guess none of that means anything anymore, does it? Lying and defrauding people has been completely normalized. *That's* the moral character our civilization increasingly inculcates into our people: the character of the grifter, the scammer, the slimeball, the sleazebag.