@marblecitybooks maybe a little expensive, and its a bit loud *you are forcing frozen liquid to be ice-cream and it doesn’t want to be that* .. but its wonderful .. if you do make low sugar/fat ice creams, you may need to add a little extra liquid after the first spin, and if you refreeze it will often harden.. few seconds in the microwave fixes that .. there is an extensive FB group with loads of hints tips and thousands of ice cream crazies..