The all fascists should die thing is not productive at all. The goal should always be to get people to agree with you, not kill everyone who doesn't

And you can change people's mind. It's hard and a difficult process, but you need to do it and it's more productive than killing people because then they can help you change more people's minds who you otherwise couldn't reach

The war against capitalism will be won by filling the hearts and minds of the proletariat, not the mass graves with them.

@celadonCamellia I take that to mean that the ones who's hearts and minds are changed are no longer fascists, and the ones who are left, the real fascists, are a danger to those they oppress.

One can stop being a fascist by changing one's mind but one cannot stop being a POC or LGBTQ. Fascists can protect themselves by changing their mind or at least giving up on targeting the oppressed, but those that are oppressed can only protect themselves by removing the fascists.

@celadonCamellia so I think the whole death to all fascists thing is very productive. The only way to protect the oppressed is if fascists either 1) stop being fascists, or 2) stop being.

@druglawyer That's not what people are saying we should do though. To quote the famous post "The first step on my journey was realizing it's impossible to stop fascism with the power of love.

Chapter 2 - the power of incredible violence"

What's the reason not to emphasize the importance for reforming, turning threats to marginalized communities into their allies, and instead focusing on capital punishment? Is there one?

@celadonCamellia That's right - it's impossible to stop fascism with love, but not every fascist is impervious to the "power of love."

So step 1, we try love, we change the hearts and minds of some fascists. They ain't fascists anymore, but we've failed in stopping fascism because some still exist. Love has failed to stop fascism.

So we proceed to step 2, which is the next logical step.

@celadonCamellia

And what are you talking about "focusing on capital punishment?" It's ridiculous to conflate the right of the marginalized to defend themselves with a state's monopoly of violence. Capital punishment and is not at all the same, not at all similar, not in the same universe as a marginalized community defending themselves against fascist oppressors. #161 #antifa #deathToFascism #deathToFascists #selfDefense #armTranswomen

@celadonCamellia I'm having a hard time believing that you're arguing in good faith here and that you're just not a #gunControl troll or member of indivisible or something.

You don't have to like violence. Violence is terrible. No one should like violence, but the only way to stop the fascists that aren't swayed by the power of love is by using violence.

@druglawyer I'm arguing that you look like you love violence, that you view it as the solution to all your problems, and you are failing to convince me otherwise.

@celadonCamellia You're arguing that I "look like [I] love violence" and I'm not sure how I look has anything to do with this.

I guess if you think that I'm violent because I'm bald and have a beard then there's nothing I can do to convince you of anything because you're not rational. You'd rather make ad hom attacks because you don't really have a point, maybe?

I do step 1, the power of love, everyday as I fight for the rights of people, you should try it sometime.