techboltDec 1, 2019
RT @[email protected]

British people will soon be forced to eat:

1. Hormone injected food
2. GM foods
3. Chlorinated meat
4. Huge antibiotic doses

...& now clear The Conservative’s are already pushing the line that to want to keep British sovereignty over food regulations is “anti-American”.
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“Well, you know what Nick? Last night I had (chlorinated?) chicken drenched with a sweet and sour sauce at the Café Diablo in Torrey, Utah. It was inexpensive, tasted great, and I’m doing just fine. Take your nasty anti-Americanism elsewhere please. https://t.co/q68gmAW8fm”

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Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 1, 2019

@techbolt
The #wealthy in London have been working overtime to redefine #WhatBrexitActuallyMeans. The whole #chlorinatedChicken, #US food debacle, and #NHS #fearMongering are a #redHerring and #falseChoice.

Farage wasn't supposed to win. He stepped down to allow the #BBC to ask on a daily basis, "but what does Brexit actually mean?" Its not about chicken. It was about lowering immigration to sensible numbers. #Britons are being misdirected.

#UKIP or #BrexitParty may be more genuine but unsure.

Show threadtechboltDec 1, 2019
@dsfgs
@dsfgs @techbolt i do not think that anyone can ignore facts and believe in such conspiracy theories such as rich trying to redefine theories or that UKIP or Brexit party are in any way shape or form the real deal...

The only conspiracy is what transpired in 2016 and that has resulted in an outcome which is neither good for Britain now or in future... it has caused a fractured society at the very least and at worst has paved way for the potential of a sunken economy with no future for middle class let alone the poor of the society. There genuinely is no upside for anyone with Brexit except for those who want to make money or career based on that outcome.
Show threadtechboltDec 1, 2019
@dsfgs
If it was about lowering immigration numbers that did not require Brexit. It required implementation of a law which is in control of this country and every other country that is member of EU so immigration as a cause is a ruse not the cause.

Immigration itself is not bad for a country and we have always been a country with open doors. It has served us well. Closing those doors now when we do kot have the skills within our country and our harvests are at stake is the cost of such misdirected anger/frustration at immigrants from any country let alone EU.

The thing about food and NHS that you think is conspiracy theory is actually harsh reality of our very near future. There is no denying the fact that GM food is root of a number of medical issues. Issues that American pharma don't mind as it generates business for them. Our social medical setup does not allow for such profiteering so they are bound to dismantle it bit by bit.
Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 2, 2019

@techbolt
Oh boy, #BrexitParty don't look good at all. #CleanBreakBrexit seems to be their catch cry. They seem more interested in reducing #tariffs and introducing more #freeTrade than actually protecting #workers. They seem to want to #lowerTaxes on #wealthy and boost #militarySpending.

Really?!

On the other hand, #UKIP seem more genuinely concerned for the #workingClass. They're not as polished in their presentation, though.

We are only half way through our reading on both parties.

Show threadtechboltDec 2, 2019
@dsfgs
Read more on UKIP... They are the worst of the entire lot... fascism is in their mind and white supremacy in their root.
Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 3, 2019

@techbolt
Yes I do need to read more on UKIP and BrexitParty policies.

So far UKIP appear more grassroots and left-leaning while BrexitParty appear more right-leaning with highly sharpened marketing strategies.

Both might not be ideal.

Are there any Green parties in UK that have a positive Brexit plan?

Show threadtechbolt
@dsfgs
Brexit is a right wing project so no left leaning parties support it.

UKIP is not left leaning... its a wolf in sheep's clothing ...see who got to be their candidates... tommy robinson for one...

I honestly cannot begin to explain the flaw in your argument about ageing population or comparison of immigrants to ponzi scheme. Read more and you will learn that socio economic advantages of moving people is far greater and our vibrant cultural growth has been and will be directly priportional to such immigration... its a two way thing... people migrate from the UK too...

Heres some more food for thought... all Brexiters keep touting Australian style point based system as a way to control immigration and here you are from Australia saying its not enough.... what most people who do not deal with immigration don't know is UK already has such a system in place... so not only are they lying to entice masses using divisive policies they are actively misselling the final road map.
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Show threadtechboltDec 6, 2019
@dsfgs
You have to also realise that Brexit is sold on platform of immigration control but in reality it has nothing to do with it.

Brexit is a pure evil scheme to get away with social welfare setup and slowly drain the country of its social welfare structure and convert it to american style capitalist and singularly cruel governance all while increasing the divide between rich and poor.

There are no valid and truthful reasons or benefits associated with Brexit that anyone has ever been able to articulate or enumerate.
Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 6, 2019

@techbolt
Please find my replies to your previous comment so that we may be on the same page.

Let's refrain from using phrases like "pure evil", they tend to detract from the dialogue.

Those are some broad accusations. From where did you get that information?

Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 6, 2019

@techbolt
Hello again Dear TechBolt,

You seem correct about the shady nature of #NigelFarage and #BrexitParty. Given the research we've done to date, we're no longer interested in Farage, and lean towards #UKIP.

In order to move forward (be on the same page in our discussion), we provide a link to the gov.uk site highlight how post-Brexit EU to UK immigration from within EU will change post Brexit - it'll be more restrictive.

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Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 6, 2019

@techbolt
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https://www.gov.uk/staying-uk-eu-citizen/y/i-do-not-know-yet/no/yes/do-not-know/do-not-know

Start quiz here:
https://www.gov.uk/staying-uk-eu-citizen

It seems the #banking class from #Switzerland et al are going to get special treatment in the current #brexit deal.

To be fair, from what we've seen of #TommyRobinson, from around the time of #FreeTommy, he's a #conservative, the #media like to conflate ...

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Continue to live in the UK after it leaves the EU - GOV.UK

Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 6, 2019

@techbolt
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#Tommy is a #conservative, the media like to conflate that and #patriotism to #rightwing. But that's another topic. He wasn't a #corporatist, racist, nor anti-gay. In fact our memory was he supported #gayRights and #multiethnicity.

To be honest, the fact that he is in #UKIP strengthens the better notions we had about UKIP, and how BrexitParty and #Farage are trying to turn Brexit into something that favours #bankers and #establishment.

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Show threadtechboltDec 6, 2019
@dsfgs
If you think that way about Tommy I think we are better off closing this conversation here. We will never agree. We in this country know him and his type up close and personal.
Show threadDick Smiths Fair Go SupportersDec 6, 2019

@techbolt
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You believe that #openBorders are fine. It may be prudent to keep in mind that most on the #left who are not engrossed in #IdentityPolitics, including #BernieSanders know why the #rightwing, neoliberal #elite and #corporatists love them, and #lobby for such openBorders, including via #unethical means such as #bribery (#politicalDonations).

Twenty years ago, saying this wouldn't trigger the #universities (now the #shills seek #privateFunding) - its what #unions did!