@vegbur Its always disappointing when vegans turn out to be problematic in other ways though, there's so many layers of oppressive systems

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@benroyce

Succeed at what? If the liberation isn't total liberation then its a failure. The means don't justify the ends. I will not ignore the oppression of non-human animals or of any oppressed group for some arbitrary notion of success

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@novet

As an anarchist I think that we should all consider the state an adversary because the state is a threat to everyone's liberty and survival: they protect ecosphere destroying businesses and risk global extinction on the only planet known to host life.

When someone acts to rescue non-human creatures being tortured and murdered its that state that will come and lock up the rescuer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZeQrwKhJRQ

Qubit count seems to be exponential[1] I think its reasonable to expect quantum supremacy possibly within the next 10y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrdExQW0cs

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@benroyce

Ok then, if chomsky isn't on the left because he's a pedophile supporter (agreed) then people who eat other animals aren't on the left either because they perpetuate a globalised violent system of exploitation torture and murder for their own taste preferences in direct contradiction of left principles of justice equality and fairness.

See what non-human victims go through
VVV
https://nationearth.com

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@rancholibertad

We cannot avoid killing microbes, we can avoid treating chickens bodies like machines that are here to produce *for humans*

To suggest that because all ways of living cause some harm to non-humans invalidates the whole vegan position is a form of appeal to nirvana fallacy. Just because the perfect cannot be attained doesn't mean we shouldnt avoid obvious exploitation wherever we can

Actually antihierarchy is a foundational part of veganism, I'm a veganarchist, for me extending fundamental rights to non-humans is part of a wider anarchist project of dismantling systems of supremacy. When you put "food sovereignty" above other creatures right to life you are perpetuating a human supremacist hierarchy. You are saying that our human ambitions excuse exploiting their bodies.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "culturally viable" but any culture that necessitates unnecessary death and exploitation is not an excuse for exploitation its just a self serving rationalization for continuing to benefit from the subjugation of other species

From an anarchist perspective what it comes down to is this, for most of human history humans have leveraged their immense power over other species for their own ends with varying degrees of consideration to their wellbeing. As the population has gotten larger the demand for animal products has skyrocketed and now farming them has become incompatible with continued life on earth.

But the whole time there has been an implied consensus that other animals were here for us to use. That by way of us being able to kill them we were justified in killing them, and when self imposed limits were placed on hunting etc it wasnt for the non-humans benefit, it was to allow their continued exploitation forever

And the veganarchist position is this: that this supposed right of humans to kill other animals for our own purposes is a power hierarchy, and its an incredibly violent hierarchy that needs to be dismantled for the sake of the vast majority of creatures on this planet. So the claim that as a vegan I inherently justify a hierarchy of other species is unfounded.

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@rancholibertad

All essential nutrients can be found on a plant based diet[1], and as I outlined above harvesting eggs is inherently abusive and exploits someone elses reproductive system. There is such a thing as veganic agriculture, yes capitalism exists and theres no ethical consumption under it but nothing excuses directly exploiting another creatures body when you have a choice.

You talk about embedding yourself in a local ecosystem presumably as a means to remove yourself from exploitative globalised systems, but if you cannot do so without incurring fundamental exploitation of anothers right, then you are not doing prefiguration, at least not a type of prefiguration that is considerate toward all creatures rights.

If your system demands exploitation then it has already failed to be liberatory, unless you think that the chickens rights are less important than those of human workers exploited in the global food industry

[1]
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39923894/

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@chiraag

Hi, I've also been vegan for 5y

I think you will be very interested in the concepts of Speciesism; Veganarchism and Total Liberation

#Speciesism #Veganarchism #TotalLiberation

@AnarchistMemes

Pig shouldn't be an insult, it just shows how little humans respect pigs that their species is equated with fascism.

I believe this is because humans hurt innocent pigs so much that they have come to hate all pigs because in pigs they see their own violence reflected back at them.

Its easier to hate pigs than to empathize

I'd rather be a pig than a fascist

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