Why do I live in a world where I have to put this shit in my bio:

#nobot #noindex #noarchive #nosearch #nobridge #noai

in my profile, and pray that the techbro's bullshit bot respects it? Whatever happened to asking people? 🙄

@CoolerPseudonym @apps https://discover.holos.social/how-it-works says it all

so basically if you have any of these things set, then you're opted out.
So if EITHER
- you have 'indexable' turned off
- have follow approval required on
- have #nobot or #noindex in your bio
then you're opted out from holos

ブロックしたら収集データを削除してくれるらしい。基本的には通常のアカウントは勝手にデータ収集されるみたいだけど・・・

"When you block us, all your content is deleted from our index"

"We only index users who have not opted out. We check these settings before following:"
"User has not disabled the "indexable" option (enabled by default on most instances)"
"Account is not locked (no follow approval required)"
"Bio does not contain #nobot or #noindex hashtags"

Holos Discover - How It Works https://discover.holos.social/how-it-works

@apps

So this dead horse flinched again

"With #HolosDiscover we checked multiple criteria before indexing: "indexable" enabled, account not locked, no #nobot or #noindex in bio, not in opted-out list, only public posts."

I'll copy-pasta with only slight edits:

My entire point (all the noise notwithstanding) focused on

Default opt-in versus default opt-out

This is an agent --> recipient transaction

Default opt-in: the recipient is opted into (and receives) the agent's action whether the recipient --> knows of <-- the action or not

Default opt-out: the recipient is opted out of (and cannot receive) the action whether the recipient --> knows of <-- the action or not

Neither default opt-in nor default opt-out have any logical meaning if

--> THE RECIPIENT DOES NOT KNOW OF THE AGENT <--

in advance

There was no mechanism for prior notification *before* indexing

People would have had to stumble on what you're doing, by how, exactly?

How dose the recipient learn of what you've done *before* you do it?

@apps

[here we go again]

"Only public posts from consenting users are indexed. We respect every signal available."

But there is the entire problem in a nutshell:

What about people who have never heard of Holos Discovery and who never will unless they receive a Follow request?

Allegedly only consenting users are indexed

I have #NoIndex #Nobot set on my profile and I have to approve Follows

But during the convo I had earlier that person said:

"Your content has been removed from our index and you won't be contacted again."

To which I replied:

"So you've --> already <-- "scraped my content" without my knowledge or permission..."

I then asked about second-party scraping -- someone I Follow and interact with has been "Discovered" and Indexed -- and thus my content has been indexed too, without my knowledge or consent

At that, they never returned to answer

The core point is, historically a lot of people have not wanted to found, scraped, and indexed for unknown third-party use

Here we go again...